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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:42 am to LARancher1991
Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:42 am to LARancher1991
Why now? So you’re okay with them holding a nuclear weapon and controlling a straight that actually affects how much you pay?
Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:29 am to Raging Tiger
According to Trump the strait has no control over US oil prices and that we don't even need or use the strait. Also let's remember the strait was completely open and operating as normal before this began. The issues of the strait is a direct cause of this not the reason it started to begin with. It's become obvious over the last months that Iran is not willing to make and deal and we are unwilling to do what needs to be done to force them to make a deal on nuclear or any other issues. So should we just continue this tit for tat BS indefinitely?
Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:36 am to Raging Tiger
We constantly make the mistake of looking at this conflict from a western civilized point of view. Not our fault because we are capable of rational thinking and have a value of human life. That is not what we are dealing with when it comes to Iran. We are dealing with a regime that is willing to let its country and people burn for the simple desire of embarrassing and defeating the western world. Until we give them that desire they will not make a deal and things are not going to change.
This post was edited on 8/3/26 at 9:37 am
Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:39 am to BayouBengal51
Everything Trump has said in the last 3 days in regards to Iran is total BS IMO. There are no diplomatic talks occurring between us and anyone in Iran. If anything, it's just Kushner and Witkoff talking to Qatar and that is it.
The only thing that is happening is the markets are being manipulated by Trump. Can't do this shite forever however, eventually he is going to have to find his balls, let them drop and take down the IRGC and the IR. It's the only way any of the "goals" get accomplished.
Until that happens, our enemies will continue to think we are weak and lack resolve. Our allies will question our abilities to protect them if need be, and ponder is it really worth being allied with us. The USA's reputation as a world power is taking a hit right now because our leader/leaders lack the huevos to take the unpleasant, but necessary steps to get this done.
The only thing that is happening is the markets are being manipulated by Trump. Can't do this shite forever however, eventually he is going to have to find his balls, let them drop and take down the IRGC and the IR. It's the only way any of the "goals" get accomplished.
Until that happens, our enemies will continue to think we are weak and lack resolve. Our allies will question our abilities to protect them if need be, and ponder is it really worth being allied with us. The USA's reputation as a world power is taking a hit right now because our leader/leaders lack the huevos to take the unpleasant, but necessary steps to get this done.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 10:10 am to BayouBengal51
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Everything Trump has said in the last 3 days in regards to Iran is total BS IMO. There are no diplomatic talks occurring between us and anyone in Iran. If anything, it's just Kushner and Witkoff talking to Qatar and that is it.
The only thing that is happening is the markets are being manipulated by Trump. Can't do this shite forever however, eventually he is going to have to find his balls, let them drop and take down the IRGC and the IR. It's the only way any of the "goals" get accomplished.
Until that happens, our enemies will continue to think we are weak and lack resolve. Our allies will question our abilities to protect them if need be, and ponder is it really worth being allied with us. The USA's reputation as a world power is taking a hit right now because our leader/leaders lack the huevos to take the unpleasant, but necessary steps to get this done.
The repeat timing of these type of announcements is so suspect as you've pointed out. No serious person can trust anything about this entire process.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 10:54 am to BayouBengal51
We need to be bombing them. Around the clock. No cease fire ever.
Until they capitulate.
Make their people have to traverse dirt trails in the dark.
Block off all trade land air and sea.
It only ends when they agree to our terms.
This would be the only way without a ground invasion.
Every ceasefire or pause is a mistake.
A mistake we repeat over and over.
Until they capitulate.
Make their people have to traverse dirt trails in the dark.
Block off all trade land air and sea.
It only ends when they agree to our terms.
This would be the only way without a ground invasion.
Every ceasefire or pause is a mistake.
A mistake we repeat over and over.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 12:35 pm to Usmc
Trump claiming this hour that Iran is "unbelievably duplicitous" with Iran claiming talks are not ongoing, but U.S. officials are also telling CBS that no new talks between the U.S. and Iran are scheduled. Looks like Trump is getting played badly here.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 12:47 pm to trinidadtiger
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r are they full of shite and anyone can search the net and see vessels are indeed going through the strait......though not to or from iran.
I mean both are true. Iran is shooting at ships that use the Omani scheme and some Iranian ships are getting through (not many though I think it's around 4 documented instances). Neither is 100% sealed off because that is much easier said than done, the plan is just to make it hard enough that most don't want to try (or the insurance cost is too high)
This is from the USNI (US Naval Institute)
quote:
Traffic levels in the Strait of Hormuz last week dropped yet again, bringing the flow of ships through the Middle East passageway to levels not seen since March, shortly after the conflict between Iran and the United States began.
Transits were down 52.4 percent between July 20 and Sunday from July 13-19, according to London-based Lloyd’s List Intelligence. From July 19 to Sunday, daily transits were in the single digits, with only two transits on July 23 and on Saturday.
While transits are down, the actual number of daily passages could be slightly higher as Lloyd’s List Intelligence confirms ships that went through the strait without their automatic identification systems on, Lloyd’s List Intelligence Maritime Intelligence & Research Director Bridget Diakun said during a Thursday webinar.
Despite the continued rise in tensions between Washington and Tehran, ship owners continue to send ships through the contested passageway, Diakun said.
“Things change,” Diakun said. “Things change quite quickly. If there are any credible positive developments at a geopolitical level, this picture will change immediately, and we’ll see, not a resurgence, but more ships going through.”
quote:
“We need to remember that if you want to disrupt maritime commerce, you don’t need much,” Ralby said.
July 31, 2026
Posted on 8/3/26 at 12:54 pm to BayouBengal51
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Trump was BS'ing everyone as I thought.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 12:55 pm to BayouBengal51
Posted on 8/3/26 at 1:02 pm to BayouBengal51
Posted on 8/3/26 at 1:03 pm to BayouBengal51
We've reached the "Their Scum" part of the cycle. 
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 1:11 pm to BayouBengal51
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If tweet fails to load, click here. The "negotiations" that are not really happening is their *last* chance for real this time. That is until next Sunday when they "beg" us not to do it and/or "At the Request of" some muzzie scum occurs.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 1:12 pm to BayouBengal51
In all seriousness… do you think he would be successfully impeached if they tried?
Just asking if it’s possible… as in are there enough republicans tired of him.
Just asking if it’s possible… as in are there enough republicans tired of him.
This post was edited on 8/3/26 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 8/3/26 at 1:16 pm to Raging Tiger
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In all seriousness… do you think he would be successfully impeached if they tried?
Just asking if it’s possible… as in are there enough republicans tired of him.
This post was edited on 8/3/26 at 1:14 pm
No
Posted on 8/3/26 at 1:22 pm to Raging Tiger
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In all seriousness… do you think he would be successfully impeached if they tried? Just asking if it’s possible… as in are there enough republicans tired of him.
Nope. But if the midterms turn into a huge loss, then he will have almost no support from anyone in the GOP on anything and his 2nd term will end with almost no accomplishments to speak of.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 2:14 pm to TakingStock
Not really sure what this has to do with anything I said.
I just said how to win this.
It had nothing to do with anything else.
If you didn't mean to reply to me that's fine.
But your reply is irrelavant to the post.
Thanks for the discourse...
I just said how to win this.
It had nothing to do with anything else.
If you didn't mean to reply to me that's fine.
But your reply is irrelavant to the post.
Thanks for the discourse...
Posted on 8/3/26 at 2:21 pm to BayouBengal51
Posted on 8/3/26 at 2:44 pm to BayouBengal51
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The "negotiations" that are not really happening is their *last* chance for real this time. That is until next Sunday when they "beg" us not to do it and/or "At the Request of" some muzzie scum occurs.
This is insane. It's clear that Trump is either outright lying or just making stuff up via Truth trying to sow confusion and division within Iran or back the Iranians into a position but that type of nonsense is clearly not very effective with them. Sadly, this cycle of "Iran bad" to "Iran is begging for a deal" could continue indefinitely as this rate.Posted on 8/3/26 at 4:34 pm to BayouBengal51
TACO is losing his sauce.
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