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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 4/2/26 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 4:19 pm to
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Did I ever say there’s no connection?


You said this.

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Y’all realize that Iran didn’t do that, right?


Which of course Iran did do that. They did do that because their terrorist arm that they created and they funded did that.

Without Iran being a terrorist state, their arm would not have done what it did.

Ergo, Iran did, in fact, directly cause the attack. Not some “minor connection” but a direct and total umbilical chord style connection.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 4:25 pm to
Susie Wiles...who has direct contact with Trump basically whenever she wants it as one of his closest aides...is saying this?

bullshite.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 4:26 pm to
No official investigation identified Iran as the group that planned and carried out the Cole bombing. The FBI said al-Qaeda planned and carried it out.

What exists against Iran is a civil case saying Iran materially supported al-Qaeda and facilitated the environment in which the attack happened.

So, no, Iran did not directly cause the attack.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 4:29 pm to
Who
Funded
Hamas
Hezbollah
Houthi
Etc?

Are you suggesting the mat Iran didn't?

How about IEDs and VBIEDS?

Posted by alphaandomega
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 4:29 pm to
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Lets examine the matter further. It is factually true that Iran did not in January 2026 and has never possessed missile technology capable of striking the United States (i.e. ICBMs). You can look it up and you will find this statement is true.

However, Iran did (and probably still does) possess mid-range ballistic missiles capable of striking Israel. This is also true.


Iran said they only had 2000km missles, then they fired one 4000km towards Diego Garcia.

That same distance would hit London.

The Iranians lie about everything.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40381 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 4:33 pm to
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Wedgetail just got whacked


Congress blocked them and funded it. We just gave a 2.4B contract to Boeing for them.

quote:

They will pull some Sentry aircraft back into operational use.


Can they, though? The E-3s put into the boneyard were to be used for parts per the Air Force. I don’t know how easily they could regenerate them or how fast.


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It stings but isn't a showstopper


I agree. But it’s a disaster because we shouldn’t have lost them or the THAAD system in the first place. We were not prepared to guard our assets from ballistic missiles or drones.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Who
Funded
Hamas
Hezbollah
Houthi
Etc?

Are you suggesting the mat Iran didn't?


No, I’m not.

quote:

How about IEDs and VBIEDS?


Iran. They trained everyone on making sophisticated bombs and facilitated it. That’s why we whacked Soleimani.

Y'all act like I like Iran
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 4:36 pm to
We just pulled a couple of Bones and Buffs out to Tinker the Sentry isn't special.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 4:38 pm to
Gave you a thumbs up
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 4:40 pm to
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in a war that is gaining us largely nothing and calling that a disaster makes me a pussy.


How is this bombing of Iran gaining us nothing?

Do you know the stated objectives of the war?
Do you feel like we are not reaching those objectives?
Do you feel like the objectives are meaningless?

Posted by Tigerstark
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 4:43 pm to
Welp you can tell that grammar school is out for Easter break with the influx of troll posts.
Posted by alphaandomega
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 4:49 pm to
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French President Macron on the Strait of Hormuz:

"Opening it by force is not the option we have chosen, we consider it unrealistic.

A military operation would take an infinite amount of time and expose forces to immense coastal and ballistic risks. From the beginning, we have said it must be reopened, but only in coordination with Iran.

The world cannot live with a strait that can be opened or closed overnight."
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

How is this bombing of Iran gaining us nothing?


It’s in my opinion that we’ve done more damage to ourselves economically and in some ways militarily than what we gained in destroying Iran’s tactical assets, hitting their infrastructure, and killing their leaders.

We’ve shown Iran that they can use the Strait as a weapon and revenue source like not seen before.

We’ve seen hard breaks between the U.S./Israel and NATO.

And we’ve expended a ton of interceptor stock in this.

quote:

Do you know the stated objectives of the war?


Yes if they can keep them straight for 24 hours instead of constantly shifting and gaslighting everyone about them.

quote:

Do you feel like we are not reaching those objectives?


The main objective was always to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. I don’t know how much we’ve done to prevent that.

The new objective is now to re-open the strait and we’ve largely punted on that.

For the other objectives you can say that they’ve been accomplished but to what degree we still don’t know. There’s still a massive drone and ballistic missile threat and the Iranian leadership seems very decentralized.

quote:

Do you feel like the objectives are meaningless?


More like misguided.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13518 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

"Opening it by force is not the option we have chosen, we consider it unrealistic.

Opening it by bribing Iran not to attack us, the French, in the future while we sit back and do nothing about future terrorist activities of the Iranian regime...That's the option we are likely to choose.


And if that's the option they choose...fricking eliminate Kharg Island.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
16031 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 5:06 pm to
Now you are meddling
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
2341 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 5:09 pm to
The entire world has been reminded, even dimtards on here, that the Iranian regime is a thug terrorist regime and must be dealt with accordingly or face the consequences. I would say that definitely makes them more vulnerable and weaker because there will be less tolerance for their shenanigans.
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