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Posted on 3/16/26 at 4:00 pm to Jbird
Posted on 3/16/26 at 4:04 pm to bbeck
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Not sure the Strait ripple effect was properly thought out by Israel or US, otherwise we would have a clear direction and solution by now.
ETA: can’t type
Cant think much either.
Of course they have a clear direction they're following - being gullible enough to repeat what others online spew makes it worse for you. You dont know their direction because who in the history of frick ever published their war plans online for the world to see.
That's retarded to even suggest
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 3/16/26 at 4:07 pm to RollTide1987
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BREAKING: VP JD Vance fires back at whether he opposes President Trump's Iran war
"Look, I know what you're trying to do. You're trying to drive a WEDGE between members of the administration, between me and the President!"
"What the President said consistently, going back to 2015, and I agreed with him, is that Iran should not have a nuclear weapon."
"I think all of us, whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, should pray for success and pray for the safety of our troops. That's the approach that I've taken. Make it as successful as possible."
Q: "So there's no hesitation, given your past statements, with the current operation? Given your skepticism of foreign adventurism, you were a critic of the global war on terror previously."
VANCE: "Well, I think one big difference is that we have a smart President, whereas in the past we've had dumb Presidents, and I trust President Trump to get the job done, to do a good job for the American people, and to make sure that the mistakes of the past aren't repeated!"
Posted on 3/16/26 at 4:09 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 3/16/26 at 4:21 pm to JellyRoll
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I have a hard time believing that the strait wasn't considered going in.
I'd say it a lot more forcefully than that. There's not a chance in hell they didn't anticipate that Iran would try to close the SOH. The fact that it's been a problem is because it's a lot of territory to cover and defend, and Iran had accumulated a lot of firepower. That was not going to improve with time, only get worse until it became unfixable. At that point Iran, and their allies, would have effective control of Gulf shipping.
I doubt the goal is to reduce the shipping risk to zero. It hasn't been zero for a long time but traffic continued in the Gulf. I suspect the plan is attrition until the risk subsides to an acceptable level. But anybody who says it wasn't foreseen and planned for is an idiot. That's like saying CNN is an honest news organization; it stretches credulity beyond the breaking point.
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 4:41 pm to hawgfaninc
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"I've been saying it for a LONG time. This is the GREATEST thing to come out of this!"
"We spend trillions and TRILLIONS of dollars on NATO to defend OTHER countries. And I always said, but if it ever comes time to defend us, they're not going to be there. Many of them would not be there!"
"And we're going to have to start thinking more wisely in this country!"
"Some have been very good. One or two have been great. I'll tell you who the great ones are at the right time."
Posted on 3/16/26 at 4:42 pm to Ailsa
94lsujerkoff says no way!
Posted on 3/16/26 at 4:49 pm to Ailsa
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JUST IN: President Trump refuses to disclose which American President told him privately 'I wish I struck Iran the way you did!'
I think it's BILL CLINTON!
Q: Was it George W. Bush?
TRUMP: No.
Q: Was it Bill Clinton?
TRUMP: I don't want to say. A member of a party, they have Trump Derangement Syndrome. But it's somebody that happens to like me, and I like that person. That person said, 'I wish I did it.' I don't wanna get into who.
"I think you probably know...maybe I could ask him if you want me to reveal his name!"
Posted on 3/16/26 at 4:59 pm to hawgfaninc
Has to be Barack the Benevolent! He really didn't mean to drop pallets of cash.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 5:08 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 3/16/26 at 5:10 pm to Ailsa
Ukraine and Iran were test cases. Even though Ukraine was not a member of NATO, supporters of US getting involved proclaimed, "It will spread to Europe. We have to stop it now." So, with constant goading from Britain and the EU, the US pumped vast sums of money and technology into that unwinnable meatgrinder of a war.
Now, the US says that Iran's military threat, with support from China and Russia, is metastasizing. They have tentacles of militia and terror all through the middle east and spreading to other parts of the world. They will not abandon their pursuit of nuclear weapons. Trump says we have to stop the spread...
And that's where the NATO alliance was proved to be dead.
Now, the US says that Iran's military threat, with support from China and Russia, is metastasizing. They have tentacles of militia and terror all through the middle east and spreading to other parts of the world. They will not abandon their pursuit of nuclear weapons. Trump says we have to stop the spread...
And that's where the NATO alliance was proved to be dead.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 5:11 pm to hawgfaninc
Those have been too funny, lately.
God bless the bee
God bless the bee
Posted on 3/16/26 at 5:11 pm to Jbird
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Jbird
He just exposed them for not being allies.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 5:20 pm to Ailsa
Isn't that the point?
These fricks have taken advantage for decades
Now they have been over run by muzzies
These fricks have taken advantage for decades
Now they have been over run by muzzies
Posted on 3/16/26 at 5:23 pm to wdhalgren
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Ukraine and Iran were test cases. Even though Ukraine was not a member of NATO, supporters of US getting involved proclaimed, "It will spread to Europe. We have to stop it now." So, with constant goading from Britain and the EU, the US pumped vast sums of money and technology into that unwinnable meatgrinder of a war.
Now, the US says that Iran's military threat, with support from China and Russia, is metastasizing. They have tentacles of militia and terror all through the middle east and spreading to other parts of the world. They will not abandon their pursuit of nuclear weapons. Trump says we have to stop the spread...
And that's where the NATO alliance was proved to be dead.
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In my opinion, I'm appreciative to every country who has shown their true colors because we have been saying "we are friends" with them for far too long.
If you have ever had a moment like this, then you totally can appreciate what is about to happen next.
Here's to the true friends that show up to help bury the bodies, no questions asked
Posted on 3/16/26 at 5:25 pm to Jbird
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Isn't that the point?
These fricks have taken advantage for decades
Now they have been over run by muzzies
Posted on 3/16/26 at 5:41 pm to Ailsa
Regardless of how these countries feel about the conflict, Iran is attacking ships in international waters. That seems like it should be a big deal to everyone using the Straight.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 5:43 pm to Ailsa
We should cut funding to all of those countries, cut all funding for NATO, and invoice the losers for World War II
Posted on 3/16/26 at 5:46 pm to hawgfaninc
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Everyone should keep an eye out on Tehran tomorrow night.
It’s the first showdown between Iranians and the regime since the start of war.
“Chahar-shanbe Suri” is an ancient Iranian festival where people gather around fire and light up fireworks.
Few days ago the regime announced that the festival is banned due to war and “security” reasons. They have issued death threats and promised severe punishments, even going as far as calling participants “mossad” agents.
The opposition leader Reza Pahlavi has on the other hand called for people to celebrate this festival and show resistance.
How people respond will give us an invaluable insight into the population’s psyche and where everyone is at.
Are they scared? Are they gonna show rebellion? Can IRGC still crackdown like before? We should get answers.
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