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re: Official Pillow Guy Symposium: only flat-earthers remain excited
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:54 pm to GodnCountry
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:54 pm to GodnCountry
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Why did they wipe it this time and not in the past
Yep
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:54 pm to Jjdoc
This brings up a few questions:
1. Why were these systems up? There is no election so they should be mothballed.
2. Where were they up? Does the SoS have a large data center where they move these machines after elections are over but leave them up?
3. For what purpose was the machine re-imaged? (this sounds like a re-image with a newer image rather than an update... which a layperson might see as an "update")
4. When was this reimaged/updated?
1. Why were these systems up? There is no election so they should be mothballed.
2. Where were they up? Does the SoS have a large data center where they move these machines after elections are over but leave them up?
3. For what purpose was the machine re-imaged? (this sounds like a re-image with a newer image rather than an update... which a layperson might see as an "update")
4. When was this reimaged/updated?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:55 pm to YankeeBama
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This. There are other rooms with the tech guys going through all the data. These guys were laughing their arse off yesterday on Twitter. Today they are virtually silent.
good. still didn't get those Pcaps out but we're atleast making progress.
I guess i had the wrong impression that this stuff they've had for a while and been investigating before. it seems they themselves are just getting a chance to look at the data.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:56 pm to Bard
Ok. No one can call the symposium a complete failure. There is definitely evidence that needs to be examined.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:57 pm to oklahogjr
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good. still didn't get those Pcaps out but we're atleast making progress.
I guess i had the wrong impression that this stuff they've had for a while and been investigating before. it seems they themselves are just getting a chance to look at the data.
I agree. The pcaps need to be examined as promised.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:57 pm to oklahogjr
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it seems they themselves are just getting a chance to look at the data.
Yeah, I think one of them mentioned they have had these images for only the last couple of days.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:57 pm to oklahogjr
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they admittedly didn't know what that code is. but i can tell you there is plenty of production and secure code still floating around from back then.
lol doesn't matter, it's not allowed on machines that aren't air-gapped. It could be an acceptable risk for a machine that is technically air-gapped, but surprise, the machines weren't.
so what's your point, what's there to deflect?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:59 pm to YankeeBama
It would be VERY interesting if they found IE cache on the old image.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:59 pm to hometownhero89
NSA guy has a valid point
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:02 pm to YankeeBama
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:03 pm to YankeeBama
If this was a round table on "are these election machines vulnerable to outside manipulation", then yes this has been a success. Only a naïve fool, or somebody with ulterior motives, can say that these machines are "hack proof" 100%
However, these are all things that have been known, and/or alleged for the last 9 months. While damning of the system in general, it doesn't prove that the specific election was compromised.
Yesterday Mike showed 2 sets of numbers of votes for each state on a map. He unequivocally stated that China hacked in and changed the votes, showing numbers pre hack and post hack. He claims to have the packets, and can show these changes were made
THAT IS THE SMOKING GUN!! That is the difference between theoretical and iron clad proof. Hell, it was supposedly the reason for this symposium in the first place.
He has to show us the mechanism of vote switching, otherwise we're just spinning wheels here
However, these are all things that have been known, and/or alleged for the last 9 months. While damning of the system in general, it doesn't prove that the specific election was compromised.
Yesterday Mike showed 2 sets of numbers of votes for each state on a map. He unequivocally stated that China hacked in and changed the votes, showing numbers pre hack and post hack. He claims to have the packets, and can show these changes were made
THAT IS THE SMOKING GUN!! That is the difference between theoretical and iron clad proof. Hell, it was supposedly the reason for this symposium in the first place.
He has to show us the mechanism of vote switching, otherwise we're just spinning wheels here
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:03 pm to Poohbear8487
Why are they going IN PERSON to do updates? Wow. None of this checks out.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:04 pm to Bard
This is now getting my attention back. This stuff needs to be deeply investigated and checked nationwide. If they did this like it looks like they did this, then those people need to run for a nonextradition country fast.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:05 pm to OldManRiver
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Yesterday Mike showed 2 sets of numbers of votes for each state on a map. He unequivocally stated that China hacked in and changed the votes, showing numbers pre hack and post hack. He claims to have the packets, and can show these changes were made
THAT IS THE SMOKING GUN!!
Do you understand that Lindell’s data is made up by a guy named Dennis Montgomery?
UNCOVERED: Conman With Long History of Deceit, Dennis Montgomery, Inserted False Information Into Election Fraud Investigation, Who’s Paying Him?
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:05 pm to YankeeBama
What they need to do is compile their findings. This is really a very early stage of if they even really have big evidence.
They don't seem sure of what they even have exactly or how it works.
They don't seem sure of what they even have exactly or how it works.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:06 pm to YankeeBama
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There is definitely evidence that needs to be examined.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:06 pm to hubertcumberdale
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Do you understand that Lindell’s data is made up by a guy named Dennis Montgomery?
Do you understand the data they are looking at RIGHT NOW was given to them from Mesa County in the last few days?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:07 pm to MightyYat
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Do you understand the data they are looking at RIGHT NOW was given to them from Mesa County in the last few days?
right but they're not having a windows expert review it. the guys reviewing it on stage are just reading different log files randomlly which i can't imagine is helpful.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:08 pm to MightyYat
He does not, nor does he care. He's locked in on this Dennis Montgomery story like Asterisk at a Brownie Jamboree and he's going to ride it until the wheels fall off.
The information they're parsing in real time has NOTHING to do with the international IP traffic on Election Night component.
The information they're parsing in real time has NOTHING to do with the international IP traffic on Election Night component.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:08 pm to hubertcumberdale
That's not what they are looking at today. This Mesa County stuff is legit.
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