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re: Odds Cole Allen is convicted by a DC Jury?

Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:53 pm to
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No trial.



While the guy should be hung by his balls until he dies, everyone should have a right to a trial.

Let's not go down that road.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:54 pm to
The difference is, at best, marginal.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:56 pm to
Did he transport weapons across state lines for the purpose of committing the crimes? Is that a crime? And then could he be tried in any district he passed through?

Btw...one of the things about his manifesto...he confessed to attempted murder not just of Trump, but every administration official in the room, except Patel. That could be a lot of individual charges.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:56 pm to
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Have you witnessed a state/local trial ?


I was a trial attorney in both state and federal courts for years.

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the absolute dregs of society that can be and have been seated


You think if someone that could not speak English was on a jury panel they wouldn’t be dismissed for cause? You’re a complete moron, if so.

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i researced 2


well why didn’t you say so? Amazing you continue to triple down on your arrogance and ignorance.
This post was edited on 4/26/26 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:59 pm to
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I was a trial attorney in both state and federal courts for years.







Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 2:01 pm to
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You think if someone that could not speak English was on a jury panel they wouldn’t be dismissed for cause? You’re a complete moron, if so.

Context
you're an attorney, these people that are discussing this are not, they were treating it like a DC jury poll would be made up of typical DC residents .

Do you disagree that the Judicial authority in a Federal court differs from that of your average District court?

And since you're an attorney, how many federal cases have been overturned because of a tainted jury

Were you involved in Ramos v LA?



This post was edited on 4/26/26 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110891 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 2:02 pm to
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Coentext you're an attorney, these people that are discussing this are not, they were treating it like a DC jury poll would be made up of typical DC residents .


Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 2:03 pm to
slow is an attorney

thats your standard

SFP ?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65689 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 2:05 pm to
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Federal Court

it was an attempt on the life of the President

Do you think that would be prosecuted on the local level?


Where exactly do you think they find the jury pool for federal court in DC?
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
5622 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 2:05 pm to
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50-50?


If they're stupid enough to do that then IMO they'd be putting the final nail in the coffin of this Republic.

Why do I say that? Because a country without a functioning Judicial System unwilling or unable to render a just verdict or unwilling to secure our borders is NOT a country. This country would turn into a Hunting Safari and we whites would be the game. On second thought - I think we've already reached that point.

At that point I would be fully in support of a TEXIT.

Her name was Lauren Bullis

Trump 2026 - he survived three assassination attempts - all while some democrats practice seditious conspiracy.

This post was edited on 4/26/26 at 2:21 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 2:08 pm to
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The difference is, at best, marginal.
Well I would argue it's more than marginal, but marginal is a difference

Additionally, all the discussion has been around the court and the judge and the jury seating

Don't you think that the prosecutor affects the potential results of the trial ?

BBonds

Would you argue that the chances of a conviction are somehow lower because the jury is being pulled from DC ?

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110891 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 2:12 pm to
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Well I would argue it's more than marginal

Nah
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but marginal is a difference

Effectively here? Nah
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Don't you think that the prosecutor affects the potential results of the trial ?

Of course.

Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 2:22 pm to
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Where exactly do you think they find the jury pool for federal court in DC?
A federal judge has more influence in the sitting of the jury

in DC, that makes a significant difference

and despite BBONDS, whom i do respect his perspective as a practicing attorney, because I do believe that having actual professional experience in the subject matter that is being discussed..4 decades in Govt/elections matters

I still assert the discretion that a federal judge has in impounding the jury, especially in DC, because the difference between who could be on the jury and who will be on the jury makes a difference
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110891 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 2:26 pm to
Like I said, the random assignment of Trial Judge will be interesting.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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196477 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 2:29 pm to
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Like I said, the random assignment of Trial Judge will be interesting.
Well what would be interesting if a Democrat judge gets the trial, the shooter is somehow found innocent, and then a subsequent Republican dominated Senate impeaches that judge

because if y'all are suspecting it of becoming political, go ahead and extend how political it could be
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110891 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 2:31 pm to
Acting like everyone else is nothing but a caricature, sort of makes you one.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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196477 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 2:32 pm to
well im being obtuse, right?
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10615 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 2:33 pm to
The DC federal court draws from the same pool of voters though. Many potential jurors likely think political violence against Republicans can be necessary.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110891 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 2:33 pm to
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well im being obtuse, right?


I didn’t say that or even suggest that term.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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196477 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 2:35 pm to
others have


And quite frankly, if all of you want to judge lol that I'm in the wrong because an attorney has said so
Then every time we have a discussion on elections, Y'all will have to defer to my expertise

3D Chess

boom!!
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