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re: Odds Cole Allen is convicted by a DC Jury?

Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:32 pm to
what are the local DC jury requirements vs the federal jury requirements?

I've never done Federal Jury Duty, so I don't know. To be a local juror, you only have to reside in the county and be a citizen in good standing.

What additional requirements do you need to be seated on a federal jury?

Posted by Tigergreg
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:32 pm to
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She is the state attorney for the district of columbia. How is the jury selected?


Nope. She is the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia. I posted earlier about the jury.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:35 pm to
Thanks for the additional info

but the assertion that I keep making is that the jury pool comes from a different class of DC resident, and the Court itself is more professional better vetted, not a typical State/DC court

do you disagree?

Posted by Rebel
Graceland
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:35 pm to
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OWLFAN86


I can't find Boosie or SFP to answer this so I asked Grok.

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My slightly retarded friend Owlfan86 from the message board tigerdroppings.com says there are more strict requirements to serve on a federal jury vs local jury. He is wrong per usual?


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Your friend Owlfan86 is wrong on this one—federal jury service does not have stricter eligibility requirements than serving on a "local" (usually meaning state or county) jury. In fact, the core qualifications are very similar across both systems, and federal rules are often slightly more uniform and sometimes broader in practice due to how jury pools are drawn.

uscourts.gov

Federal Jury Qualifications (Uniform Nationwide)Under federal law (the Jury Selection and Service Act), to qualify for federal jury service you generally must:Be a U.S. citizen.
Be at least 18 years old.
Have resided in the federal judicial district for at least one year.
Be able to read, write, speak, and understand English well enough to complete the juror qualification form and serve.
Not have a disqualifying mental or physical condition (with reasonable accommodations possible).
Not currently face felony charges punishable by more than one year in prison.
Not have been convicted of a felony (unless your civil rights have been fully restored).

These come straight from the U.S. Courts' official guidelines. Excuses or exemptions (e.g., for hardship, certain occupations, or age) can apply but vary somewhat by district
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:36 pm to
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what are the local DC jury requirements vs the federal jury requirements?

I don't know that the requirements are different but the standards are

quote:

What additional requirements do you need to be seated on a federal jury?

they tend to be a higher class of individual

none of you people would make the cut
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:37 pm to
yea, I meant US Attorney. but her jurisdiction only covers DC.

Where will her non DC jury come from if not DC?

Are they going to fly people in from Minot and Des Moines?

Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:38 pm to
I think you get a better quality juror in Federal Court. Federal jury requirements are uniform. States can make their own rules, such as whether someone if proficient in English, felon, etc,

To qualify for federal jury service, a person must be a U.S. citizen, at least 18 years old, have resided in the judicial district for at least one year, and be proficient in English. Applicants must not have pending felony charges or have been convicted of a felony without restored civil rights.

Key Qualifications:
Citizenship: Must be a United States citizen.
Age: Must be at least 18 years of age.
Residency: Must have lived in the judicial district for at least one year.
Language: Must be able to read, write, and understand English.
Mental/Physical Health: Must not have a disability that prevents satisfactory service.
Legal Standing: Cannot have pending felony charges or a felony conviction (unless rights have been restored).

Selection Process:
Random Selection: Potential jurors are randomly drawn from voter registration or driver’s license lists.
Questionnaire: Recipients must complete a Juror Qualification Questionnaire.
Excuses/Exemptions: Exemptions often apply to active duty military, police/firefighters, and public officers. Some districts may exempt individuals over 70 or those who served in the last two years.

Disqualifying Factors:
Any person who does not meet the above criteria is disqualified.
Pending felony charges or a felony conviction.
Inability to communicate in English.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59452 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:38 pm to
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they tend to be a higher class of individual


Where are you getting this BS? The requirements have been posted in this thread. It’s ok to just admit you didn’t know federal courts had juries or that you simply had a senior moment and didn’t realize it would be a DC Jury…and apologize for being so smug while being completely wrong.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:39 pm to
1, you aked grok, bedpan used to ask grok

and B

Not requirements, standards
I never said requirements I said standards
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59452 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:39 pm to
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Not requirements, standards I never said requirements I said standards


List the differences in standard. Don’t be scared to be specific.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:41 pm to
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Where are you getting this BS?


Do you object to my term higher class of individual? The standards are higher to be seated on the federal court jury than a local or state jury


Again y'all keep saying
quote:

requirements
I'm using the term standards those are two different words and they mean different things



Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:42 pm to
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List the differences in standard. Don’t be scared to be specific.


education, profession, ability to use English, convictions

is that not enough?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59452 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:43 pm to
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Do you object to my term higher class of individual?


Yes.

quote:

The standards are higher to be seated on the federal court jury than a local or state jury


What is the standard for each court?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143773 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:44 pm to
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Okay, this retard is saying that the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia has greater standards for a jury selection pool than that of a D.C. local.



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No, that claim is bullshite. The U.S. Attorney for D.C. prosecutes cases in both federal court and local D.C. Superior Court — and both courts pull from the exact same source lists.They merge registered voters, driver's licenses, non-driver IDs, and tax filers. It's the same master jury wheel for both the U.S. District Court and D.C. Superior Court. Same pool, same demographic makeup, same qualification process.The only real differences are in the courtroom itself — federal voir dire is more judge-controlled, local might give lawyers more room — but the raw jury pool is identical. That "retard" is either lying or doesn't know how D.C. jury selection actually works.


I will still default to any members of my crack legal dream team.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59452 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:44 pm to
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education, profession, ability to use English, convictions is that not enough?


It’s not true. So no. You are wrong. Digging in just makes your initial arrogance seem worse. It always amazes me when people post with arrogance from a place of complete ignorance.
This post was edited on 4/26/26 at 1:45 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:47 pm to
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It’s not true. So no. You are wrong. Digging in just makes your initial arrogance seem worse. It always amazes me when people post with arrogance from a place of complete ignorance.
please cite your source

I have
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22268 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:49 pm to
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50-50?




Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59452 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:50 pm to
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please cite your source I have


The requirements and the ONLY requirements to be on a federal jury have been posted. You posted an opinion that because federal cases can be more complex the judge is more lenient on dismissing jurors. That is simply an opinion and not a standard. Additionally, this isn’t a complex white collar crime. How many juries have you picked?


Again….it amazes me that people will dig in and opine with arrogance from a place of complete ignorance.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Member since Jun 2004
196477 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:50 pm to
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What is the standard for each court?
It's been posted in several posts, my link, someone else has posted it

Can you not read ?

I mean you don't think proficiency in English is a standard that is different from a federal court versus what local courts seat, especially from a DC jury, which is what this thread is about

Have you witnessed a state/local trial ?

the absolute dregs of society that can be and have been seated


quote:

How many juries have you picked?
i researced 2

Kay Bailey's trial in State Court for staff scheduling a dental appointment
and in anticipation of a Federal Trial ,, that never materialized, but we were prepping on an dispute over the results of the Red Light Camera resolution

The City filed the case in federal court because they knew they would lose in State District Court and the courts agreed with us eventually

they were trying to treat it as a contract dispute
This post was edited on 4/26/26 at 1:56 pm
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2383 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:52 pm to
I disagree. The pool is the same: DC residents.
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