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re: October trade data in: biggest monthly trade deficit in over 10 years

Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:50 am to
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:50 am to
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hammer "trade, tariffs, Trump" as the talking point driving the trade deficit

i did that? link?
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The direction of the trade deficit is not surprising

many on this board would disagree, and many also disagree with stating that it's not a bad thing
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not even a nice try
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:52 am to
You do realize that is the month most Christmas goods come to shore right? Do you also realize the the US does Christmas like no other country when it comes to the commercial side of it?

Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:52 am to
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The fact that you and 90proof claim superior intellectual understanding on all things trade yet continue to hammer "trade, tariffs, Trump" as the talking point driving the trade deficit is the definition of intellectual ignorance.


I understand what intellectual honesty is though, which apparently you don't. Intellectual honesty is not being smart, instead its not denying the facts presented to you.

I do agree, the trade deficit is a complicated beast. Maybe trump shouldn't have promised to fix the trade deficit if he can't actually do it?
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23485 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:55 am to
That’s it, I’m done with Trump. I’m now a Hillary supporter. You happy now?
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:56 am to
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You do realize that is the month most Christmas goods come to shore right? Do you also realize the the US does Christmas like no other country when it comes to the commercial side of it?


For the first year in 10 years, americans are buying cheap plastic shite from china! You nailed it right there buddy.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:58 am to
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For the first year in 10 years, americans are buying cheap plastic shite from china! You nailed it right there buddy.



Nope. One month a trend does not make and the Christmas push is likely an aberration. But keep cheering against the US.
Posted by MisslePig
Member since Jul 2018
962 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:59 am to
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90proofprofessional


Fair enough 90proof, just to clarify, all you're claiming to do is present trade data? Completely devoid of any political undertones or in-depth analysis to what's driving it?


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Brian_Wilson


You're my favorite poster for all the wrong reasons.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:03 am to
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No matter what happens...good, bad, or somewhere in between, he will come here and complain about it. Orange man bad.


The OP isn’t even complaining. You’re the one being a bitch. Trade deficits aren’t even a bad thing. And tariffs aren’t a good solution anyway.

Trump is basically Bernie Sanders on trade
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:05 am to
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One month a trend does not make and the Christmas push is likely an aberration. But keep cheering against the US.

You didn't read the article, did you? The trend is bad on exports and imports.

now, I am surprised that someone hasn't said - this is businesses filling their inventory before the next round of tariffs hit. This is at least partially what is going on.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:07 am to
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You do realize that is the month most Christmas goods come to shore right? Do you also realize the the US does Christmas like no other country when it comes to the commercial side of it?


seasonality is easily captured when comparing to the same month a year ago, and year to date compared to a year ago. both of which i did

next
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:07 am to
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this is businesses filling their inventory before the next round of tariffs hit.


No way. Businesses love uncertainty and not being able to plan for the future.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:09 am to
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Completely devoid of any political undertones or in-depth analysis to what's driving it?

bruh you said i had continually "hammered" the talking point of a certain "driver" that i haven't asserted a single time
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:27 am to
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One month a trend does not make and the Christmas push is likely an aberration


Most Chinese suppliers were giving guarantees to customers that if you placed orders by a certain deadline in Oct that you would not be subject to the new tariffs on Jan 1 and they would eat them if you products hadn't cleared customs by Jan 1.

It sucks that we missed our deadline and have a 20k line item on our latest order.
Posted by MisslePig
Member since Jul 2018
962 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 1:12 pm to
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90proofprofessional


My post completely obliterates any position you've taken and clearly outlines why the trade deficit is moving in the direction it is...

You fail to address any of it because it completely defeats the narrative you are insinuating and is beyond your 30 seconds of armchair google economics understanding.

All you do is address individuals who have as little understanding as you do.

Grats on the great troll job though...#exposed
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 2:12 pm to
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My post completely obliterates any position you've taken

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it completely defeats the narrative you are insinuating and is beyond your 30 seconds of armchair google economics

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troll job

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...#exposed



oh yeah, that's the good shite
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 2:15 pm to
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I don't understand why you cheer bad news


he didn't cheer it.

Simple facts.

You are acting sensitive.



Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 2:23 pm to
Trade deficits don't matter. The end.

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