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re: "Ocasio-Cortez's win is a sign that Democrats are hungry for generational change"

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Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:43 am to
Actually this type of "upset" can only happen in NY, LA, San Fran, etc... Not really indicate of anything more than the increasingly radical leftists tone in the largest cities.

She has zero chance in 98% of state races. If your city votes for a soda tax because of the sugar, she can run there.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:43 am to
The establishment right is so far to the left that the mainstream left is going further left.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:44 am to
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Framing the fed's powers to levee taxes as a mandate to pay for any and all bullshite you can dream up ridiculous.


What the taxes are spent on is a political question not a constitutional one.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:46 am to
I agree with you but it's like the first signs of cancer. You better get it treated quick
Posted by CptRusty
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:47 am to
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What the taxes are spent on is a political question not a constitutional one.



But your argument frames a higher education as a right that the federal government is mandated to provide.

This makes it a constitutional question.

I never said the constitution prevents the feds from paying for everyone's college. I said it doesn't require them to do so.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:49 am to
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Go listen to him on Joe Rogan recently.

3 hours long, give me a relative timestamp.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:51 am to
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But your argument frames a higher education as a right


No it doesn’t outside of enforcing equal protection on the states. Alabama cannot provide a public education system for Alabama fans but not Auburn fans.

quote:

I never said the constitution prevents the feds from paying for everyone's college. I said it doesn't require them to do so.


Who is arguing the constitution REQUIRES the feds to pay for everyone’s college?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:52 am to
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3 hours long, give me a relative timestamp.



You think I keep timestamps on Dave Rubin interviews handy?
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:53 am to
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Who is arguing the constitution REQUIRES the feds to pay for everyone’s college?


You took up the pro side of this statement:

"forces taxpayers to pay for every childs higher education"

...do you think "forces" and "requires" are not synonymous in this context? or that "taxpayers" and "the feds" are not interchangeable in that context?

This post was edited on 6/27/18 at 9:54 am
Posted by monceaux
Houston
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:54 am to
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Ocasio-Cortez's win is a sign that Democrats are hungry for generational change



15,897 people voted for this gal. Before we make it into some huge national story let's admit it's really a very small local story.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:55 am to
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do you think "forces" and "requires" are not synonymous in this context?


Not even close actually and kind of a weird correlation tbh
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:55 am to
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Not even close actually and kind of a weird correlation tbh


explain
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:56 am to
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15,897 people voted for this gal. Before we make it into some huge national story let's admit it's really a very small local story.


You’re looking for rationality from this crew?
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
9115 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:56 am to
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What the taxes are spent on is a political question not a constitutional one.



Except for Defense, which is mandated by Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1 of the Contstitution.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:57 am to
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he can't live forever



He does not have too. 6 more years, he is Memorialized on Mt. McKinley and 8 years of Pence, the libs will be almost in diapers again
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
88044 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:00 am to
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explain


You’re being very opaque. Nobody that I know of has argued the constitution required fed paying for people’s college and i don’t know why you’d start from there if that’s what you intended. I read it initially as part of the right wing victim complex where everything they don’t like is being « forced » upon them.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26663 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:02 am to
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You think I keep timestamps on Dave Rubin interviews handy?

Don't be dense. Towards the beginning? Middle? End?
Posted by CptRusty
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Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:03 am to
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nobody that I know of has argued the constitution required fed paying for people’s college and i don’t know why you’d start from there


You could have just saved a lot of time and typed this as your first response.

But for the record:

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86428 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:04 am to
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pro
they are no longer hiding who they are, in years past it would have been suicide, hence the habitual lying about where they stand and the moniker of being a 'moderate'

There will finally two totally different parties. And, many who consider themselves Democrats will wake up to the fact that they are only calling themselves that out of a sense of team and/or tradition.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25886 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:05 am to
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You don’t own the only legitimate view of what the constitution says


At the moment we do,5-4 in fact.
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