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re: Obama's CDC study on Firearms.

Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:46 pm to
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I do remember which analysis you swore you could do.



Sweet. Turn your work in, and it's yours.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:46 pm to
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Yea let’s see these thoughts!


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ETA: if you link an article by a doctor I have to pay to read I quit


I said gun nuts, not reasonable educated people...
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:47 pm to
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Only people who are strongly anti-gun will get grants.


That's not how it works.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:47 pm to
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reasonable educated people


Is that you?
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
10290 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:48 pm to
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to those classified as such by the retailers who have chosen not to sell them. I think we can all agree that they know how to classify guns that they sell, especially when they sell more of them than any other retailer.


Why would you defer to a retailer who sells more Toilet Paper in a month than firearms in a year? Why don't you go to some real gun experts who can actually demonstrate to you with cold hard facts and even a direct demonstration of the differences?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63233 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:49 pm to
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First, because guns per 100 population isn't the same as gun owners per 100 population.
But it's pretty close to (print) magazine sales.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45856 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:49 pm to
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Why don't you go to some real gun experts who can actually demonstrate to you with cold hard facts


Because BamaATL cares nothing for cold hard facts. It's all about the statist narrative baby.

Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:49 pm to
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Show me the math. And by math I mean gun violence figures compared to all other forms of violence.


It's out there. You've been whining at me for 15 pages to tell you the difference between two guns some of you claim have no differences (but whoa boy do others of you disagree).

Why don't you do some work, and find those figures for yourself. They're very easy to find.

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And the math should not include suicides.


They can and they can't. Suicides are still gun deaths, and preventable. Why don't you care about your fellow Americans?

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63233 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:49 pm to
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No, I want us to achieve similar gun death rates to our peer countries.
Why?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:50 pm to
Hey BamaAtl

Hey Bama.........come on. Try some intellectual honesty.
It won't kill ya

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Did you ever answer what you'd do if you got everything you wanted and then we had a shooting where 2 students with revolvers killed 10 students?

You'd just shut up, right?




Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:50 pm to
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Suicides are still gun deaths, and preventable.


Wrong.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:50 pm to
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You dodged for the 7th time by giving an answer that isn't really measurable.


Of course it's measurable. We know what the gun violence rates are in other comparable countries. We know what our rates of gun violence are.

We can tell over time if ours go down to match theirs. Poof. Success.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63233 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:51 pm to
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It wasn't 39-ish violent contacts, it was 39 contacts with his address, none of which rose to the level of an arrest and none of which allowed for his guns to be removed from the household per Florida law.
Nope.

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Hell, they didn't even Baker Act him.
But.. but... I thought the government can decided who should/shouldn't have a gun. Isn't that your claim?

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45856 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:51 pm to
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Why don't you do some work, and find those figures for yourself. They're very easy to find.



But you're the queen of charts and tables. I figured you'd easily have on on hand to refute me?

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Suicides are still gun deaths, and preventable.


They aren't gun violence.

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Why don't you care about your fellow Americans?



I believe in allowing my fellow Americans to live their lives as they see fit.

Unlike you.


Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:51 pm to
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Every other time I posted that question I spelled it correctly.


It's tough that it only took one time for you to show your real ignorance on the topic, but that's the world.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:52 pm to
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I can explain this for you, too.


Go for it.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:52 pm to
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Of course it's measurable. We know what the gun violence rates are in other comparable countries. We know what our rates of gun violence are.

We can tell over time if ours go down to match theirs. Poof. Success.



There are a lot of peer nations. Which ones specifically?

And. While you're at it.

If you got the laws you want.........and 2 kids shoot upa school using revolvers, we can expect your response would be, 'meh, shite happens even with good laws"........not, "we need more laws"........right/
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:52 pm to
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It's tough that it only took one time for you to show your real ignorance on the topic, but that's the world.


This is where you are now? Really?

Sad.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63233 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:52 pm to
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You don't know what that word means. I'm sure you've heard it before, but you clearly don't understand it if you need it spelled out. But sure:

Given our relative wealth and stability/peacefulness, we would expect that our gun violence rates would be in line with other countries that share our characteristics.
There are none. *poof* that argument's gone.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45856 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:53 pm to
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It's tough that it only took one time for you to show your real ignorance on the topic, but that's the world.


What is the difference between an AR-15 and Mini-14, with details please.

I'll understand if you just respond with "I don't know."

Bonus Points if you can address why the weapon developed by ArmaLite for the US military that became the M16 is different than the AR-15 developed by Colt specifically for civilian sales.

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