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Obamacare architect now calling for single payer

Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:52 pm
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
21682 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:52 pm
Shocker.

Years ago he said never in a million years, but that was because the votes weren't there for it, not because he was against it.

Acceptable now
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:55 pm to
Single payer was always the end goal.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:58 pm to
frick Paul Ryan and the rest of the GOP.
Posted by kevv824
Member since Sep 2006
2386 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:08 pm to
That was always the plan. Create something so shitty it would collapse so that you can call for single payer as the only thing that will work.
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6840 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:22 pm to
That was literally the entire point behind Obamacare. Eventually transitioning over to single payer.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
51536 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:35 pm to
The Big Donors of both major political parties are in favor of US Government provided national healthcare.

That's why we can be sure that the Establishment GOP would also support it. They cannot be so bold as to openly call for its implementation. They try to maintain this Masquerade that they are different than the Democrats.

But the truth is that most US corporations would love to off-load their health care burden from themselves to the US taxpayers.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Member since Aug 2015
13106 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:25 pm to
Isn't this the same guy who Maria Bartiromo slammed on her show? If it is, that guy came off as a bumbling idiot.
Posted by chickenpotpie
Member since Aug 2013
1161 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:47 pm to
It's going to be awesome watching family & friends die because the government doesn't want to spend the money. I'll be sure to thank the useful idiots for this.
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
20599 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 12:21 am to
Everyone on Fox has had this guy on. Maria, Martha McCallum, and Tucker have done the best at exposing him for the sham he is.

Ezekiel Emmanuel is his name.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12283 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 12:34 am to
quote:

now calling for single payer


Even these three saw this coming -

Posted by kilo
Suck Our Yankee
Member since Oct 2011
28525 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 2:04 am to
quote:

Single payer was always the end goal.


Anyone for single payer healthcare needs to spend some time in a VA hospital/clinic etc.

I would invite any of you single payer supporters to spend a day with me while I navigate a single appointment at the VA.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 2:11 am to
If only the Republican party could gain control of all three branches of government.

Then they could unveil that plan they have been talking about for 7 years that will reduce the government's role in healthcare, bring down everyone's rates, cover more people, drastically reduce costs, and make everyone better off.

Then the Democrats would be screwed! They wouldn't have a leg to stand on advocating single payer since the Republicans would decapitate the shite out of the Democrats argument by showing they have the superior answer and the public would demand to have it!
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
20599 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 2:24 am to
Once entitlements are given, it's hard to take them away. You guys throw around rhetoric like people will be dying in the streets immediately upon the repeal.

The Republican Senate has been weak on this issue, but it doesn't change the fact that the ACA is failing hard. Take digs at the Republicans. They deserve it. But Democrats have a bigger hand in it by launching it. Quit defending it because it is failing. Come up with a real solution. Not you, but our lawmakers. All of them.
Posted by kilo
Suck Our Yankee
Member since Oct 2011
28525 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 2:24 am to
Anyone paying attention understands that both sides of the aisle are bought and paid for by the healthcare conglomerates and lobbyists.

This insurance angle/fight is one of the biggest hood winks these entrenched politicians have ever pulled on the American public.

If they were really serious about the issue they should start with regulating the DME and pharma industries.

When plastic bedpans cost $100 and up you know there is an issue.

Wish folks would wake up but it will never happen. They prey on those in a time of great personal need and our politicians are complicit.

It's disgraceful. These politicians are arguing over who should pay for the $100 plastic bed pan instead of asking why in the frick does it cost $100 to begin with. The lemmings buy in..hook line and sinker.

Every one of you partisan hacks, on either side of this health care debate, are literally propagating the status quo.

This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 3:30 am
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
76888 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:26 am to
It has an inevitable feel to it.

My only hope is that it not happen without at least trading something in return.

If we could do single payer in exchange for the FairTax, I think I could live with it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131257 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:35 am to
quote:

That was literally the entire point behind Obamacare. Eventually transitioning over to single payer.

No. No.

Progs here are indignant at suggestions Obamacare is anything but self-sestaining and wonderful.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12438 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:58 am to
quote:


If we could do single payer in exchange for the FairTax, I think I could live with it.



No. Single payer would be forever, and the thing you "got" would last a few years.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
76888 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:33 am to
quote:

Single payer would be forever, and the thing you "got" would last a few years.



a key component of the FairTax is repeal of the 16th Amendment, that is a really big deal

once undone, that would be extremely difficult to put back
Posted by Radiojones
The Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2007
10728 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:45 am to
These fricking people are so dishonest, I hope they all diaf.
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
9538 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 6:15 am to
quote:

Sanders' own state of Vermont learned when it scrapped its single-payer plan after the finances collapsed.


The feds should not be funding aka underwriting health insurance. Changes and reform will be mired in endless discussion, studies and distractions by politicians who have separate health care benefits.
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