re: Obamacare -what's right and what's wrong with it

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All that they can do is allow insurance companies to reduce coverage and raise the price. That's all their "plan" has ever involved.

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So... pretty much Obamacare, right?

Having "more" coverage that you can't use because you haven't met your now astronomically high deductible isn't really have "more" coverage.

The core elements behind most conservative ideas around healthcare are quite good. Interstate competition, foreign pharmaceuticals, tort reform, etc.... They are too cowardly to go after the issue. Meanwhile dems have the balls to force their socialized healthcare schemes down america's throat. Thats the difference between the two parties.

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I hope the supreme court kills it. There are other ways it could be done.

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The courts in this country have been making political excuses to deem new taxes legal for two hundred years. This will be no different. Wealth taxes are next.

Government shouldn't be involved in healthcare.

You are right the Republicans don't have balls , they should tell people to purchase their own healthcare.

Republicans are dumb fricks.

Their best ideas actually gets government out of the way. Allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines and allowing low cost pharma from overseas are a great start. Not sure why they are so afraid to run on ideas like this.

Society decided it was a moral issue that citizens were being denied medical care due to increasingly cutthroat decisions being made by health insurance actuaries to maintain minimal profit margins. As society had progressed from the 1930s, we had not rethought our system of allocating health care resources.

The main problems were:

1. Health insurers provide a necessary service for their customers by negotiating with doctors and streamlining the issues of costs.

2. But health insurance the way it has operated over the last 30 years in particular is always a losing proposition. Too much advancement in end of life care and advancement in treating cancer, etc raises costs and the stubborn, hardy customers who can subsidize the above easily chose to avoid paying anything at all.

3. So insurance companies began to ditch cost-heavy customers. This should have been the only issue discussed for such a massive bill, with a chief goal of providing the same service of health insurers (streamline cost and paperwork) to these customers only and with maximum efficiency and minimal disruption to the existing market or to the broader tax base.

I've seen tons of ideas floated and agree with many of them in some fashion or another.

After a decade plus of research and debate, I lean towards a multi-prong approach of

1. HICs should not be forced to cover customers with pre-existing conditions.

2. Regulations governing the purchase of insurance over state lines are purged, all regulations designed to facilitate the purchase of insurance by customers individually or by group from any insurer they choose.

3. Customers who cannot purchase insurance due to pre-existing conditions are allowed to buy in to Medicaid at a rate that is subsidized by a federal VAT on cigarettes, alcohol, sugar, (now decriminalized) marijuana, and motorcycles.

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Society decided it was a moral issue that citizens were being denied medical care due to increasingly cutthroat decisions being made by health insurance actuaries to maintain minimal profit margins. As society had progressed from the 1930s, we had not rethought our system of allocating health care resources.

The main problems were:

1. Health insurers provide a necessary service for their customers by negotiating with doctors and streamlining the issues of costs.

2. But health insurance the way it has operated over the last 30 years in particular is always a losing proposition. Too much advancement in end of life care and advancement in treating cancer, etc raises costs and the stubborn, hardy customers who can subsidize the above easily chose to avoid paying anything at all.

3. So insurance companies began to ditch cost-heavy customers. This should have been the only issue discussed for such a massive bill, with a chief goal of providing the same service of health insurers (streamline cost and paperwork) to these customers only and with maximum efficiency and minimal disruption to the existing market or to the broader tax base.

I've seen tons of ideas floated and agree with many of them in some fashion or another.

After a decade plus of research and debate, I lean towards a multi-prong approach of

1. HICs should not be forced to cover customers with pre-existing conditions.

2. Regulations governing the purchase of insurance over state lines are purged, all regulations designed to facilitate the purchase of insurance by customers individually or by group from any insurer they choose.

3. Customers who cannot purchase insurance due to pre-existing conditions are allowed to buy in to Medicaid at a rate that is subsidized by a federal VAT on cigarettes, alcohol, sugar, (now decriminalized) marijuana, and motorcycles.

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Those are not problems let alone the main problem.

You haven't even identified the problem, health insurance is not the problem. Health care costs are the problem.

A ton of people are going to be disappointed if anyone is thinking that SCOTUS is going to follow the reasoning from Sibelius and strike the whole law down. That is not going to happen, and wouldn't happen even if there were 9 Scalia's on the bench.

They will wiggle around and find a way to keep it in effect, most principally because the framework has been in place for over a decade and there is no immediate replacement plan.

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#3 is the biggest issue. The Republican's don't have a healthcare plan. They spent the last 10yrs telling everyone has bad it is and didnt come up with a plan.

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WHY DOES GOVERNMENT NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN HEALTHCARE OR HEALTH INSURANCE IN THE FIRST PLACE????

Jesus Christ why do you weak arse libs need mommy and daddy government for everything? Government intervention long before Obamacare is the reason why health insurance and healthcare costs are expensive.

Ten years from now liberals will be screaming why we don't have a person in the bathroom to wipe our arse and ask for mandated nap times.

HUH?

The FDA reforms that were recently put in have sparked added generic development competition in the drug market that has the Rx CPI dropping for the first time in over 45 years. Importing low cost drugs from other countries further feeds this type of competition, which any economist will tell you lowers/stabilizes prices over time.

And if you've eaten the cheese on nationwide marketing of health insurance raising prices, I've got a seaside property in Nebraska Id like to sell you.