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Obamacare -what's right and what's wrong with it
Posted on 10/12/20 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 10/12/20 at 3:39 pm
1. What is being reviewed by SCOTUS on Nov 10th? I am asking I do not know...
2. Why are democrats worried a new justice would be the end of Obamacare? This doesn't make any sense if the court is being used right when Obamacare was passed. Either the program is lawful and constitutional or it isn't...
3. Why did Obamacare have to go to the SCOTUS for final approval? Was it because Congress couldn't complete it's job? I believe it was the reason it was essentially deemed a TAX to pass the constitutional sniff test! Am I wrong?
4. I do believe the GOP has failed to assure the American people it has a plan to replace Obamacare, with something to improve the costs and services of HC which are not very good. What is the GOP plan if they successfully end Obamacare?
5.I give credit to Democrats for pushing these issues, (Pre-existing conditions, and change in HC) where they fail us is their ideas and policies rely on Government
2. Why are democrats worried a new justice would be the end of Obamacare? This doesn't make any sense if the court is being used right when Obamacare was passed. Either the program is lawful and constitutional or it isn't...
3. Why did Obamacare have to go to the SCOTUS for final approval? Was it because Congress couldn't complete it's job? I believe it was the reason it was essentially deemed a TAX to pass the constitutional sniff test! Am I wrong?
4. I do believe the GOP has failed to assure the American people it has a plan to replace Obamacare, with something to improve the costs and services of HC which are not very good. What is the GOP plan if they successfully end Obamacare?
5.I give credit to Democrats for pushing these issues, (Pre-existing conditions, and change in HC) where they fail us is their ideas and policies rely on Government
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 3:48 pm to ApexTiger
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1. What is being reviewed by SCOTUS on Nov 10th? I am asking I do not know
Roberts retarded defense of it was the penalty being a tax.
They removed the penalty, so the court will come up with a new retarded defense of it as to not seem “political”
Lol
Posted on 10/12/20 at 3:49 pm to ApexTiger
"You can keep your Dr."
It was a lie.
It was a lie.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 3:51 pm to Turbeauxdog
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They removed the penalty, so the court will come up with a new retarded defense of it as to not seem “political”
sounds like something Congress should address?
That 8th grade level of civics today was a nice refresher course
Posted on 10/12/20 at 3:54 pm to ApexTiger
It is a stealth tax that puts the burden of caring for the unhealthy on other citizens. It is illegal and unconstitutional on multiple levels including the *requirement* that people have health insurance, the requirement that insurance companies insure people that will result in losses (pre-existing conditions), and the fact that it is a stealth tax that transfers responsibility for health care of the poor and infirm onto other citizens.
I hope the supreme court kills it. There are other ways it could be done.
I hope the supreme court kills it. There are other ways it could be done.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 3:54 pm to ApexTiger
#3 is the biggest issue. The Republican's don't have a healthcare plan. They spent the last 10yrs telling everyone has bad it is and didnt come up with a plan.
#2 the Dems shouldn't be worried about Obamacare being struck down, if it is then that would force the GOP and the Dems to come up with a better solution.
Also how long will the reply " you can keep your Dr" be what people say in protest about Obamacare. The price for some is the biggest issue. I am lucky to have great insurance provided at a low cost by my employer, alot of people are not that lucky.
#2 the Dems shouldn't be worried about Obamacare being struck down, if it is then that would force the GOP and the Dems to come up with a better solution.
Also how long will the reply " you can keep your Dr" be what people say in protest about Obamacare. The price for some is the biggest issue. I am lucky to have great insurance provided at a low cost by my employer, alot of people are not that lucky.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 3:56 pm to ApexTiger
The ACA limited choice in order to provide canned plans. No more catastrophic only plans b/c the government knows better than i do what is adequate.
The good - it tied up a dem house & senate for almost two years, expended all of their political capital, resulted in a water downed version of what the wanted....and gave us republican majorities in the house and senate.
The good - it tied up a dem house & senate for almost two years, expended all of their political capital, resulted in a water downed version of what the wanted....and gave us republican majorities in the house and senate.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 3:57 pm to hawkeye007
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#3 is the biggest issue. The Republican's don't have a healthcare plan. They spent the last 10yrs telling everyone has bad it is and didnt come up with a plan.
What was this?
Posted on 10/12/20 at 4:03 pm to Y.A. Tittle
It was a plan they didn’t like so it wasn’t a plan.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 4:12 pm to ApexTiger
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what's wrong with it
It was written by the health insurance companies. This allowed them to raise deductibles and premiums on everyone.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 4:14 pm to Turbeauxdog
If I am not mistaken the hubbub now is about if the mandate is gone is the entire law shot and now needs killed/replaced.
Not much good about it if you oppose growing fed gov and increasing handouts.
Not much good about it if you oppose growing fed gov and increasing handouts.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 4:15 pm to hawkeye007
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#3 is the biggest issue. The Republican's don't have a healthcare plan. They spent the last 10yrs telling everyone has bad it is and didnt come up with a plan.
This ^^^^ a hundred times. The republicans have never had a plan. They never will have a plan. All that they can do is allow insurance companies to reduce coverage and raise the price. That's all their "plan" has ever involved.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 4:17 pm to TBoy
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This ^^^^ a hundred times. The republicans have never had a plan. They never will have a plan. All that they can do is allow insurance companies to reduce coverage and raise the price. That's all their "plan" has ever involved.
Why the frick does the government need a God damned "plan"?
That a thousand times
You assholes are like unweaned kittens and I don't want the people YOU support deciding when I die.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 4:21 pm to TBoy
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This ^^^^ a hundred times. The republicans have never had a plan. They never will have a plan. All that they can do is allow insurance companies to reduce coverage and raise the price. That's all their "plan" has ever involved.
Why do we need a plan? For the most part....health insurance is regulated at the state level...at least prior to the ACA.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 4:24 pm to ApexTiger
There’s only 8.3 million people on OBOZOcare and insurance companies were forced to raise their rates to pay for it. My own employer provided health insurance went up $3,000 annually to pay my fair share.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:13 am to hawkeye007
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I am lucky to have great insurance provided at a low cost by my employer, alot of people are not that lucky.
and the premium your company is charging you is 2x or 3x the price it was pre obama care. 
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:15 am to ApexTiger
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Obamacare
is a POS
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what's right
It's named after the right person
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what's wrong with it
All of it...except the name
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 10:16 am
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:16 am to Y.A. Tittle
that was the day i learned to hate John Mccain
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:20 am to ApexTiger
None of this had to do with health care or health care costs.... its about insurance and who gets the bills.
Unless you identify the issue(s) you have very little chance of solving them. The medical industry still has you fooled by blaming insurance.
Unless you identify the issue(s) you have very little chance of solving them. The medical industry still has you fooled by blaming insurance.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:21 am to ApexTiger
well the mandate was awful and having to pay for shite like prenatal care when Im a single guy.
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