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re: NYT: Fox Stars Privately Expressed Disbelief About Election Fraud Claims. ‘Crazy Stuff.’

Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:46 pm to
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:46 pm to
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quote:NYT waaaaaaalllll - if the grey lady sez it -


That publication is pure evil.

Everything that broke today was coordinated by them and with the help from three letter agencies.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:46 pm to
I appreciate your post as well. As for mine, I probably should’ve been more clear. What I meant was that it was a lightening in a bottle scenario that allowed those leftist parties involved to cheat the system in existence prior to covid.
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:52 pm to
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The count was not a fraud



You saw in Ga. about the fake water leak and the camera captured corrupt counters tabulating fraudulent votes in the middle of the night after the other Republican counters went home.

Seeing is believing except for those who don’t want to see.

Jesus said this in the Bible 2,000 years ago.
Posted by Jayrod79
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:57 pm to
Well I guess you can't blame them for getting what they want. They played the Republicans like a fiddle. Then again we can't be certain the Republican weren't playing with them. As an owner operator I've been alot of places in this country and I've never seen the support for a president that President Trump garnered. If one vote were one vote then I am confident Biden had zero chance. I guess I was wrong lol
Posted by Mephistopheles
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 10:05 pm to
The reason you see high support for Trump is because a high percentage of people who support him do it very vocally. But each highly vocal Trump supporter is still only worth one vote.

People don't support Biden vocally, no one calls him a god emporer or has bizarre homo-erotic cartoon sketches of him. But the votes of people who mildly support him and hate Trump are also worth one vote.

Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 10:06 pm to
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“The North Koreans do a more nuanced show” than Mr. Dobbs, the brief says.




Tried to tell y’all
Posted by Mephistopheles
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 10:08 pm to
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Everything that broke today was coordinated by them and with the help from three letter agencies


It's all a big bad conspiracy and nothing to do with Trump being an unpopular president who was surrounded by idiots. And his grip on Fox was so tight that they couldn't even let someone fact check Rudi Giuliani and Sidney Powell.




Posted by BengalOnTheBay
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 10:12 pm to
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Mephistopheles


You're a functionally retarded communist.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 10:19 pm to
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thejuiceisloose


Don't you have a violent criminal to stick up for somewhere?
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 10:23 pm to
Fox is doing everything the maniacs believe the MSM is doing. They’re lying for market share.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 10:29 pm to
That’s what you garner from a piece written by a primary competitor and opponent of FNC. Doesn’t seem very credible to me.
Posted by Mephistopheles
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 10:42 pm to
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That’s what you garner from a piece written by a primary competitor and opponent of FNC. Doesn’t seem very credible to me.


You can read the source documents or you can do what I'm doing and skimming the highlights.

The spin that whatever competitor you're referring to is putting on it, is the most obvious narrative. Fox News hosts knew the election fraud claims were bullshite but knew they had to go with them for fear of losing their audience.

Carlson's comments in particular paint this picture. He didn't believe any of it but he wasn't concerned about the basic level of denial, just the batshit Sidney Powell type stuff.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 10:50 pm to
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Isn’t this old news? I thought we all knew this already?


100%. Well, you possibly didn’t realize this, but anyone remotely conscious has known from day one that Tucker doesn't really believe most of what he says literally. He’s obviously incredibly intelligent and it’s therefore just completely obvious to non-fanatics that he simply could not believe the bad faith and logically flawed arguments that he makes on a nightly basis. He simply knows how to manipulate a passionate but gullible base who will believe anything he says if it fits their preconceived world view. The left does the exact same thing with all the identity and racism BS….stirring the emotions, in non-rational individuals, for profit.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:07 pm to
Tucker’s family has been the target of threats due to his reporting on various issues and matters. So to propose that his reporting subject matter is designed primarily with the thought of pandering for the sake of ratings would then mean that he’s sacrificing the health and safety of his own family for those same, simplistic purposes. You’re sold on that notion?
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:12 pm to
Bub if you don’t know by now that Tucker is in the television entertainment business and not the truth business then I don’t know what else to tell you
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:20 pm to
It’s all or nothing in your mind? It’s not the likely possibility that personally he follows the same line of thinking that he espouses on his show? I’ll spot you an acknowledgment that producers and their production plays a role, I’m not dismissing that notion out of hand, but it looks like your view of it is that it’s all a production, no earnest or honest beliefs of the host at the show’s core?
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:33 pm to
Oh, I’m sure he leans right and may even believe some of his own drivel

But he clearly knew this election fraud conspiracy was horse shite and pumped it into the airways anyway

It’s the lowest form of journalistic integrity, but thankfully for him, he’s not a journalist and has no integrity

And yes, before the what-abouters get here, I’m sure all the left wing networks do this, too.

Trump is suing CNN, maybe we’ll get some funny quotes out of those court docs as well.
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 11:34 pm
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:54 pm to
Maybe I’m off with my understanding of the situation, but best I can recall, Tucker was actually being lambasted for his LACK of coverage and attention to the whole thing.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/17/23 at 12:22 am to
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You’re sold on that notion?


100%. Are you not? I’ve been certain on this for years just from my own observations, but let’s look at this story as a readily accessible example.

Assuming you’re not completely writing these texts off as “fake news” like many on here will, they’re pretty straightforward aren’t they? For the record, I believe the texts to be real as Dominion would get destroyed if they were fabricating them, and the “they were out of context” argument only gets one so far in this instance.

So anyway, all that said let’s assume the texts are real. It’s pretty clear he doesn’t really respect the intelligence of his base or its ability to discern objective truth, right? Isn’t that the only takeaway here? Now I do think he truly believes in wanting to prevent the ‘ends’ of this country turning into a further progressive hellscape. That part is honest and from the heart. And I’m not saying he “hates” his base. They’re ‘his’ people, he just looks down on them a bit and knows how to work them.

What I’m 100% certain on is that he justifies employing the means of “playing along” with an emotional base that he considers nutty and gullible to achieve his ends of steering them in the direction he wants them to go for what he believes is the country’s greater good. You’ve always been a MAGA guy I respected and have enjoyed speaking with. Are you telling me that you would find the above to be a shocking development in your view of Carlson? This just seems like self-evident stuff.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 2/17/23 at 12:30 am to
Are we talking about Carlson or Trump?
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