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re: NYT: Presidential scholars rank Trump last among all Presidents
Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:12 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:12 pm to RollTide1987
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NYT
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:18 pm to Wild Thang
If JFK is ranked behind LBJ on this list compiled by "presidential scholars," I will literally lose my mind. "Presidential scholars" has a ring of elitism to it as well, just sayin 
Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:43 pm to RollTide1987
These people are just cheerleaders for left. I wonder if they even realize that they are seen as a joke.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:46 pm to RollTide1987
Who gives a shite?
Rankings are all politics. Nobody is objective anymore.
From politics to sports to the arts, it's all politics.
Rankings are all politics. Nobody is objective anymore.
From politics to sports to the arts, it's all politics.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:55 pm to MastrShake
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well no shite, the man is an idiot.
Just a multi billionaire real estate magnate married to a supermodel banging OT legend pornstars on the side who won the most improbable presidential election victory in the history of the nation......yeah what a loser
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:22 pm to Strannix
I’m sure these same folks have Obama ranked very high 
I mean there was just so much to love. How do you pick a favorite between the scandals, stagnant GDP, 100 million out of the labor force, ISIS running rampant, losing our AAA rating, racial division, etc...
I mean there was just so much to love. How do you pick a favorite between the scandals, stagnant GDP, 100 million out of the labor force, ISIS running rampant, losing our AAA rating, racial division, etc...
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:24 pm to RollTide1987
#stillpresident
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:54 pm to RollTide1987
1. Lincoln
2. Washington
3. FDR
4. Teddy Roosevelt
5. Jefferson
6. Truman
7. Eisenhower
8. Obama
9. Reagan
10. LBJ
11. Wilson
12. Madison
13. Clinton
14. Adams
15. Jackson
16. Kennedy
17. G.H.W. Bush
What a crock of fricking shite.
2. Washington
3. FDR
4. Teddy Roosevelt
5. Jefferson
6. Truman
7. Eisenhower
8. Obama
9. Reagan
10. LBJ
11. Wilson
12. Madison
13. Clinton
14. Adams
15. Jackson
16. Kennedy
17. G.H.W. Bush
What a crock of fricking shite.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 10:16 pm to Muthsera
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7. Eisenhower
DAMN they're like really hyping up Eisenhower, 7th ALL-TIME and above Reagan?! Discredits that list in my eyes, tough crowd
Posted on 2/19/18 at 10:19 pm to RollTide1987
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Presidential scholars rank Trump last among all Presidents
AT LEAST HE WILL GO DOWN AS A PRESIDENT!!!
Posted on 2/19/18 at 10:24 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Lol colluded to what read HRC nasty emails early?
Posted on 2/19/18 at 10:25 pm to RollTide1987
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Presidential scholars
You can major in that?
What are you gonna do in college Steve? Start a company?
Nope, I'm gonna judge people who were way better than me.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 10:31 pm to RollTide1987
I would like to hear about their ranking criteria and see if they can justify if quantitatively.
I'm guessing not.
I'm guessing not.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 10:41 pm to RollTide1987
They are giving Trump too much credit.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 10:47 pm to Muthsera
It’s so difficult to rank Presidents like this. So much depends upon circumstances. Perhaps Trump will be forced to respond to some event and he takes us in a different and better direction. But if he is never presented with a chance for greatness, who knows. He won’t be great on his own, for sure.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 11:00 pm to TBoy
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It’s so difficult to rank Presidents like this. So much depends upon circumstances. Perhaps Trump will be forced to respond to some event and he takes us in a different and better direction. But if he is never presented with a chance for greatness, who knows. He won’t be great on his own, for sure.
I'm looking at the top 10 of this list and that "chance for greatness and succeeded" element is shared by all except 2 people: Obama and LBJ, Obama and his failures with the MidEast and LBJ and Vietnam, if we wanna give LBJ credit for signing the Civil Rights laws into law that's fine maybe I just perceive the "chance for greatness" element in a different light or perspective
Posted on 2/19/18 at 11:08 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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mmmmmbeeer
Posted on 2/19/18 at 11:50 pm to Muthsera
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11. Wilson
The guy that gave us income tax and The Fed is the 11th best president?? Apparently, it helps to have strong socialist or authoritarian leanings to make it to the top of this list. Helping the common American citizen doesn't seem like it was a factor in the rankings.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 12:04 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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11. Wilson
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The guy that gave us income tax and The Fed is the 11th best president?? Apparently, it helps to have strong socialist or authoritarian leanings to make it to the top of this list. Helping the common American citizen doesn't seem like it was a factor in the rankings.
Make "the world safe for democracy," World War I, that moment of greatness that Wilson accepted and thrived upon, in that respect he likely supplants Obama and LBJ in the top 10 who really can't claim that. The trend I'm noticing with the "presidential scholars'" list is every one of those presidents listed near the top, except Obama and LBJ, seized on a pivotal moment that affected world history at-large and really elevated America's stature in the world. My theory is it plausibly could be the logic they're using to compile this list as screwed up as that sounds.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 12:06 am to RollTide1987
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No credible historian should ever rank a President's administration before some time has actually passed.
True.
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When Bush left office in 2009, he was ranked #42
GW has to be the worst president of all time
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