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NYT: Presidential scholars rank Trump last among all Presidents

Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:08 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:08 pm
Unfortunately, the article itself is behind a paywall but I have seen tweets from various people who have read the article (including Nate Silver).

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@NateSilver538 2h2 hours ago
It speaks poorly to the field of presidential scholarship that political scientists have Trump ranked as the worst president of all time **after only one year on the job**, below presidents who e.g. helped blunder us into the Civil War & Great Depression.


And I 100% agree. No credible historian should ever rank a President's administration before some time has actually passed. When Bush left office in 2009, he was ranked #42 with only James Buchanan considered a worse President. Now he's ranked #35 and climbing.

Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:09 pm to
TRUMP is the GOAT.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21380 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

Presidential scholars rank Trump last among all Presidents


If your research begins and stops with the dribble that comes out of the MSM I can see why. He's literally Hitler and he's literally killed tens of thousands of people already.
Posted by NDonahue
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:10 pm to
There's a shock. Professor Goldbergsteinbaum ranked him last.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:10 pm to
That's quite an honor coming from tNYT.
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:10 pm to
WTF is a presidential scholar?
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:11 pm to
Bush is a bottom 5 President, and only grows worse with each passing year of incurred debt in the Middle East.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:11 pm to
well no shite, the man is an idiot.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:11 pm to
With one year on the job and ranked dead last. There's no agenda there whatsoever. Nope . None at all.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34638 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:12 pm to
The fact that bush is climbing is nothing short of how much they hate Trump. It’s the craziest thing ever
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43977 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:12 pm to
Of course they do.
It’s the exact reason so many people support him.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

**after only one year on the job**

To be fair here, William Henry Harrison only served about 6 weeks and James Garfield about 6 months. Its still stupid to judge his presidency while its in its infancy.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:13 pm to
Yeah, the Scholars are biased. No way Trump is that low with the first year economy numbers. It’s just been a year, but Trump is like top 2 Presidents ever, economically, and has done a decent job with Foreign affairs, Syria, etc..,The country is pretty divided politically, but that doesn’t change facts...
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69233 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:13 pm to
That's not how you judge a president, mastrshake

You're really going to rank trump lower than Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, and Herbert Hoover?
Posted by NDonahue
Member since Apr 2016
1053 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:13 pm to
William Henry Harrison was always my favorite president until Trump. If only the other ones could follow his lead.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:14 pm to
Any historian worth their salt will tell you that you cannot accurately judge a President until he has been out of office for at least 15 to 20 years, to see the long-term fallout/benefits of their policies.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:14 pm to
(((Presidential Scholars)))
Posted by winston318
Oklahoma City,OK
Member since Sep 2009
3175 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

TRUMP is the GOAT.

Especially to uneducated White Americans
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112552 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:17 pm to
Such a stupid insult considering Democrats rely on dirt poor, uneducated minorities to be relevant nationally.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64930 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

Any historian worth their salt will tell you that you cannot accurately judge a President until he has been out of office for at least 15 to 20 years


That is what this historian is saying. Trump shouldn't even be on the list. They ranked him last for two distinct reasons:

1) They know it's too early to rank him so they put him at the bottom
2) They put him at the bottom to also make a political statement
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