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re: NYC passes law: $250,000 fine for saying “illegal alien” outloud

Posted on 9/29/19 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
6474 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 12:35 pm to
If you haven’t figured it out yet you’re ignorant.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

It is almost as if you clowns are INCAPABLE of examining facts, rather than being good little cheerleaders and chanting the approved mantras.

FFS , I am AGREEING with you, and you STILL find something to bitch about ... because I am not agreeing loudly enough


No dipshit, you are intimating that there is some possible way that making it illegal to utter words some group deems offensive, may not be a violation of the First Amendment. I guess nobody should be surprised coming from you, but it’s just another ridiculous assertion.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 12:42 pm to
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No dipshit, you are intimating that there is some possible way that making it illegal to utter words some group deems offensive, may not be a violation of the First Amendment. I guess nobody should be surprised coming from you, but it’s just another ridiculous assertion.
Have you read the ordinance?

Obviously not, because that is simply not what it says.
This post was edited on 9/29/19 at 12:43 pm
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
17418 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 12:45 pm to
It's still hard for me to believe sometimes that the progressives are going along with bullshite like this. This flies right in the face of everything a true liberal used to believe in. I guess they are willing to sacrifice their most deeply held beliefs for the chance at power, which is disgusting beyond the pale.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90584 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 12:45 pm to
Why not just quote what it does say? Why play the coy game with cheerleaders. Just drop the boom!
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 12:50 pm to
Jesus Christ Hank

You've been in rare stupid troll form lately.

Sheesh
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 12:52 pm to
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Why not just quote what it does say? Why play the coy game with cheerleaders. Just drop the boom!
There is no “boom.” I just find it highly entertaining that people are arguing regarding the text of the ordinances, when said people have not bothered to read the ordinances.

I have no idea whether I found every ordinance that de Blasio references in his memo, but the ones I have seen are pretty generic “protected class” pabulum.

Check Title 8 of the city code.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 12:53 pm to
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Why not just quote what it does say? Why play the coy game with cheerleaders. Just drop the boom!


He's hanging his hat on the idea that it MIGHT be constitutional because it says you can't use the words when motivated by hate...……….

Good luck defending yourself in court when they argue that you used the term because you hate and you try and say nuh uh.

Sheesh Hank has been doing some dancing on pin heads lately
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77633 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 12:53 pm to
Given that's the phrase the SCOTUS uses, good luck enforcing that...
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 12:53 pm to
Have YOU read the ordinances, Shorty? Unlike the other dimwits, I would not expect YOU to express an opinion without doing so.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

Have you read the ordinance?

Obviously not, because that is simply not what it says.



Careful, AggieCrank. My town has passed an ordinance, fining you $250,000 for telling someone they are speaking without knowing the facts.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90584 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 12:54 pm to
It's like links and cut n paste iare difficult.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 12:56 pm to
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Have YOU read the ordinances, Shorty?


Yes. I did.

And they're brazenly unconstitutional.

Yeah. I know that OP didn't characterize it perfectly. But your pretense is equally bullshite
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26629 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 12:56 pm to
If they really want to make some money the term needs to be "white supremacy".

That'll fast track the $$ going into the judicial system
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

He's hanging his hat on the idea that it MIGHT be constitutional because it says you can't use the words when motivated by hate...……….

Good luck defending yourself in court when they argue that you used the term because you hate and you try and say nuh uh.

Sheesh Hank has been doing some dancing on pin heads lately
Yeah, I never said ANY of that. I simply said that the memo is more-clearly a constitutional violation than the actual ordinances.

You people are absolutely, obsessively delusional.
This post was edited on 9/29/19 at 1:03 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

Yeah, I never said ANY of that. I simply said that the memo is more-clearly a constitutional violation than the actual ordinance.


They're both clearly unconstitutional

quote:

You people are absolutely delusional.
Oh pahfrickinlease.

If you want to argue the actual ordinance might have a shot at passing muster, make the argument and get off the fricking pin head.

Running around saying, "well, that's not EXACTLY correct" while failing to actually articulate your point is trolling bullshite
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23946 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 12:59 pm to
Free Speech... Progressives and Libs hate it.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 1:02 pm to
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Running around saying, "well, that's not EXACTLY correct" while failing to actually articulate your point is trolling bullshite
No, Shorty, “trolling” is trying to drag me into an argument in which I would argue the merits of a position that I have never taken. I have no interest in that discussion.

I think that the memo is worse than the ordinances. I think that the memo goes far beyond the bounds of the ordinances. Period.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 1:05 pm to
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itNo, Shorty, “trolling” is trying to drag me into an argument in which I would argue the merits of a position that I have never taken.
You said the actual ordinance was POSSIBLY unconstitutional.

That's a position. Defend it. Or, shut the frick up and stop trolling.

quote:

I think that the memo is worse than the ordinances. I think that the memo goes far beyond the bounds of the ordinances. Period.
Yes. But, that's not why you were being given shite.

Both the memo and the ordinance are unconstitutional.

Frankly, once you get past the point of unconstitutional, I'm not really of a mind to think how far you went past that point to be terribly relevant unless you're trying to play the "hey, look, I'm smart" game in a thread
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 1:05 pm to
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AggieHank86


quote:

ill-advised and possibly unconstitutional 


This is why people hate you.
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