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re: NyAG brings civil suit against the Trump Foundation and its Board of Directors

Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:08 am to
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5833 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:08 am to
I’m sure this is partially politically motivated.

We will know more this afternoon and I think almost everyone is in agreement that Comey was bad at his job.

Comey was bad for both parties. Being politically motivated does not mean what the NY ag has nothing on the Trump foundation.

Anything that involves Comey is sketchy.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:12 am to
CruiserHog needs a beating more than any human being I've ever came across in my life. And I met Saadam Hussein.

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79659 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:13 am to
quote:

Dr_Tim_Whatley


Regifting little bitch.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:14 am to
Text of the suit is out.

NY v. Trumps



P.S. Not a good legal day for DJT. His appeal in the Summer Zervos suit was denied.

This post was edited on 6/14/18 at 11:20 am
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:20 am to
quote:

The line you quoted says that he was essentially distributing back to himself. So instead of someone donating to the foundation, and the foundation distributing it to St. Jude's, Make-A-Wish, and the Wounded Warriors Project, it's saying the foundation was distributing it back to another Trump entity, including the business itself, which is probably the most problematic part.

It said to "non-profits".

Since when was the Trump Organization a non-profit?

It wasn't and never was. So you're talking out your arse.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:36 am to
I misread it donating to his bussiness and non-profits. That's my fault. It makes sense reading the lawsuit though.

Although this is kind of what is essentially alleged here, since it's saying he used the foundation for his businesses lawsuit settlement:
quote:

Mr. Trump personally directed his accounting staff to draw the $100,000 payment from the assets of the Foundation, not his personal accounts or the accounts of Mar-A-Lago in the following handwritten note he sent:
quote:

The Trump Organization accounting staff followed Mr. Trump’s instruction to use the Foundation’s account to satisfy the settlement obligation, even though the Foundation was not involved in the lawsuit in any way.
This post was edited on 6/14/18 at 11:39 am
Posted by UnclassyStudent
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
2835 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:37 am to
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This post was edited on 6/14/18 at 11:39 am
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:39 am to
Deflector shields activate!
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48287 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:44 am to
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NARRATOR: There were referrals.


I don't know about the FEC, but the referals to the service weren't criminal. Do you have info to the contrary regarding the FEC?
This post was edited on 6/14/18 at 11:45 am
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48287 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:47 am to
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glad we drained the swamp by hiring a president who has a ray donavan, has been sued for fraud, and was committing felonies through his non profit. Keep blindly circle jerking to one corrupt mother fricker, magas.


Oh....my....god. You criticize Maag, yet you can't tell the difference between a civil suit and a criminal case? I'll ask you too....he third person in this thread. Can we apply the standard of allegations in a petition as being fact across the board? Yes or no.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48287 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:51 am to
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Just read the details. As someone who has served on the boards of several nonprofits, this suit absolutely has merit.


as someone who has litigated Several cases regarding self dealing within a private foundation...let me tell you...you are full of shite and have zero clue if the suit has merit. Are we accepting allegations in a petition as facts now? Can I apply hat across the board.
This post was edited on 6/14/18 at 11:54 am
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48287 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:52 am to
Doc. I beseech you. Save yourself the embarrassment
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:55 am to
quote:


NyAG brings civil suit against the Trump Foundation and its Board of Directors
Dude change your MF title, there are no charges. It's a civil lawsuit


sorry just got back from eating lunch

i would change the title but someone already did, my bad i could have worded that better.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98710 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:56 am to
By the same people that cleared Clinton Foundation?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:57 am to
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yet you can't tell the difference between a civil suit and a criminal case?
I think someone asked before, but it was referred to the IRS and FEC.

Anyways the two biggest takeaways from that were:

1. Lewandowski and the campaign staff were directing the donations given to the foundation at a campaign rally. The lawsuit alleges that it was a problem because the foundation and at least the board should have been in charge of it since the foundation didn't have any real staff.

It's just a strange use of campaign resources to have them do it anyways, regardless of the legality. Maybe he really didn't think he was going to win.

2. The foundation was used to pay settlements of the business organization, including $100,000 settlement with Trump's approval explicitly stating to use the foundation to pay it off.



Now the settlements seem really shady to me. I know you're a lawyer, so what is your opinion, both in the legalitg and or just in general in regards to whether it's shady or not?
This post was edited on 6/14/18 at 12:03 pm
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11445 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 12:03 pm to
Snowflakes are chippy today. Maybe they are finally realizing that Hillary lost the election and fake news isn't going to change it and that they are getting 8 years of MAGA, like it or not!

Scream at the sky, I hear it will make you feel better.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 12:06 pm to
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and fake news isn't going to change it
What is your definition of fake news since the lawsuit filing is verifiable and true?
This post was edited on 6/14/18 at 12:07 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48287 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

think someone asked before, but it was referred to the IRS and FEC.


The referral to the IRS isn't criminal. Don't know about FEC.

1. A trustee of a private foundation may delegate. I'd be interested to know exactly what actions were being taken and if it rose above allowable delegation.

2. Is Fisher House a non profit? I don't know the details of the suit. What was the wording of the settlement? It may be shady it may not. If fisher house isn't a non profit it would be a disallowed distribution and there would be an excise tax.
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 12:29 pm to
apparently Trump is tweeting on this....he mad




The sleazy New York Democrats, and their now disgraced (and run out of town) A.G. Eric Schneiderman, are doing everything they can to sue me on a foundation that took in $18,800,000 and gave out to charity more money than it took in, $19,200,000. I won’t settle this case!...
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 14, 2018

....Schneiderman, who ran the Clinton campaign in New York, never had the guts to bring this ridiculous case, which lingered in their office for almost 2 years. Now he resigned his office in disgrace, and his disciples brought it when we would not settle.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 14, 2018


Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73434 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 12:29 pm to
Cruisertool a day late and a dollar short as usual.
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