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re: Nurse who injected 8,600 patients with saline instead of Covid vaccine gets probation

Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173799 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:46 pm to
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That does not change the factual statement I made.

It wasn't a factual statement

You said everyone was forced to get it

There were some mandates that applied to a minority of the population

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Why are you choosing to not acknowledge that?

See above
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Everyone was told that they had to get it

False. See above.

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We were told that those without the vaccine would not be able to travel. There was talk of vaccine passports

And this never materialized

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Again, this was never meant to be a decision people were allowed to come to on their own.


Yet that's exactly what people did. They made their own decision on whether or not to get it
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17873 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:46 pm to
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So if that nurse instead injected saline into babies instead of the polio or measles vaccine because that nurse felt that getting those vaccines would cause them harm….you are ok with that?


The polio/measles vaccines are proven to work and the possible side effects are known. Yet another apples to oranges comparison… lol
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17873 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:48 pm to
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It isn't her choice to make


Neither was it for everyone else. They were compelled to do so via the powers of the government, osha, and others.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173799 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:48 pm to
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So if that nurse instead injected saline into babies instead of the polio or measles vaccine because that nurse felt that getting those vaccines would cause them harm….you are ok with that?



Of course he is

Nurses can just make executive decisions based on a whim and deceptively deny you treatment any time because of some ill informed medical opinion they might have
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17873 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:51 pm to
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There were some mandates that applied to a minority of the population


OSHA regulations apply to a small number of people? Lmao
The ability to travel across state lines apply to a small number of people?
The ability to keep your job applies to a small number of people?

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And this never materialized


Does not change the fact that it was actively being discussed by our government on both the federal and state level.

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Yet that's exactly what people did. They made their own decision on whether or not to get it


Wrong, they made the decision to keep their job, to be able to travel, to have the ability to see loved ones in the hospital… etc.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17873 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:55 pm to
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Of course he is


So the efficacy of the COVID vaccines is the same as the polio/measles vaccines?

Also, are the side effects of polio/measles vaccines known?

How about the Covid vaccines.
Posted by GVT
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2004
1036 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:56 pm to
Damn, where was this lady when Ochsner forced me to take this shite. She's an angel.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17551 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:56 pm to
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Wrong. Everyone was told they would lose their jobs, their ability to travel, their ability to see loved ones…etc unless they got this “vaccine”. This was never allowed to be a decision people were allowed to come to on their own.


It's odd to me that one would be against mandates but OK with this woman's actions. The mandates severely limited choice. With the tie-in to people's livelihoods, you could even argue that they nearly entirely removed choice. No such argument is needed with respect to this woman's actions as it's clear she took it upon herself to absolutely deprive others of choice. That's a pretty twisted thing to support but you do you.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:00 pm to
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So the efficacy of the COVID vaccines is the same as the polio/measles vaccines?

Also, are the side effects of polio/measles vaccines known?

How about the Covid vaccines.


You're missing the point entirely. She lied to her patients. Patients left her thinking they got the vaccine because she told them that is what she gave them. Under no circumstances is that ok.

What if a maga person wanted to get an injection of ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine during the pandemic. They go to a nurse who doesn't believe those things help at all and instead gives them saline without telling them. You cool with that?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44317 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:04 pm to
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We were told that those without the vaccine would not be able to travel. There was talk of vaccine passports


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And this never materialized


Isn’t this currently in process via digital ID (passports)?
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 4:06 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44317 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:08 pm to
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What if a maga person wanted to get an injection of ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine during the pandemic.


Celticprog said it was bleach being injected.

The nurse was in the wrong imho.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
32106 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:20 pm to
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it was bleach being injected.

Didn't The Magnificent One once recommend bleach injections as a COVID therapy?
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
13647 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:23 pm to
My thoughts on this. I am not vaccinated and don’t plan to take it.

If the patients were forced to take the shot, good on her.

If the patients wanted the shot, shame on her.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37364 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:24 pm to
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You've said that mandates did not exist.

No I haven’t.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:25 pm to
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If the patients were forced to take the shot, good on her.



She still lied to those patients.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17873 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:25 pm to
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It's odd to me that one would be against mandates but OK with this woman's actions. The mandates severely limited choice. With the tie-in to people's livelihoods, you could even argue that they nearly entirely removed choice. No such argument is needed with respect to this woman's actions as it's clear she took it upon herself to absolutely deprive others of choice.


She made the decision to not inject an unknown into people. Something that known to be completely untested. She took a risk, and in retrospect she made the correct decision. There is no doubting that. We were all told the vaccines worked, but no one knew the potential side effects.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37364 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:28 pm to
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My thoughts on this. I am not vaccinated and don’t plan to take it. If the patients were forced to take the shot, good on her. If the patients wanted the shot, shame on her.

She lied. Nothing else matters.

If she opposed the vaccine she should have refused to administer it Lying to patients and eliminating their informed consent to an injection is never excusable.

No behavior of any medical provider or political worldwide changes the analysis. She is totally and completely in the wrong for lying to patients and injecting them with something they did not consent to.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17873 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:28 pm to
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What if a maga person wanted to get an injection of ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine during the pandemic. They go to a nurse who doesn't believe those things help at all and instead gives them saline without telling them. You cool with that?


The efficacy of hydroxychloroquine is known, and the side effects are known. So it would be completely political to not administer it. But that actually did happen. Doctors and pharmacists were actively choosing to not prescribe it even if their patients specifically said that is what they wanted. Not an issue with that right?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37364 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:30 pm to
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She made the decision to not inject an unknown into people.

A decision that is unequivocally not hers to make. She is not allowed to lie. She should have refused to give the injections, not lied to patients and injected them with a placebo.

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We were all told the vaccines worked, but no one knew the potential side effects.

Completely irrelevant to her behavior. She didn’t refuse to give the vaccine, she lied about it.

Absolutely astounding that anyone could support a medical provider directly lying to patients about what’s getting injected into their body.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17873 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:30 pm to
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Damn, where was this lady when Ochsner forced me to take this shite. She's an angel.


Exactly.

How many who were forced into taking it now wish they had been given saline instead?
I’m sure there is nothing wrong with the vaccines though. They can never be sued for the possible side effects, and that was done for absolutely no reason at all… lol
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