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re: Nunes confirms that Trump tweet appears to have been accurate

Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:41 pm to
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:41 pm to
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That’s different than having the Obama administration surveil the Trump campaign.”


It's a distinction without a difference.
Posted by Tigerdev
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:53 pm to
Did you even read the article?

quote:

The significance of Nunes’s disclosure was questioned even by a key Republican. "If the Trump campaign’s conversations are caught up in surveilling a foreign agent, there are rules about what you can release and who you can unmask,” Republican Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina told reporters. “That’s different than having the Obama administration surveil the Trump campaign.”
Posted by blackjackjackson
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 12:03 am to
Posted by League Champs
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 12:05 am to
Wanna know how I know youre scared?

You linked an article that used the terms 'key Republican' and 'Lindsey Graham' in the same sentence

Your KEY Rep. finished like 15th in the Rep. primaries last year. Now had they said 'key Democrat-leaning Republican', then it would have had meaning
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 7:57 am to
Its unfathomable that after 10 months of investigating, and absolutely nothing new being revealed at Mondays testimony, that an hour after Nunes presser, suddenly the left has 'more than circumstantial' evidence

Just his wording in that statement is comical. Theres circumstantial evidence, direct evidence, and proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Why not say they have 'direct evidence'? Because they don't! But they had to have something out there, for the lib media to run as their lead story.
Posted by fillmoregandt
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:01 am to
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Its unfathomable that after 10 months of investigating, and absolutely nothing new being revealed at Mondays testimony, that an hour after Nunes presser, suddenly the left has 'more than circumstantial' evidence




It's sad that politics have been reduced to such a pathetic dog and pony show
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:03 am to
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The significance of Nunes’s disclosure was questioned even by a key Republican. "If the Trump campaign’s conversations are caught up in surveilling a foreign agent, there are rules about what you can release and who you can unmask,” Republican Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina told reporters. “That’s different than having the Obama administration surveil the Trump campaign


No Lindsey , it isn't.
Posted by Yak
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:09 am to
What does Nunes mean by saying that the Trump campaign was "incidentally" surveilled?

I guess what I'm trying to figure out is if this was incidental, wouldn't that mean it was incidental because the Trump campaign was communicating with the same people the FBI were monitoring?

I'm not sure about the Nunes angle. It's not very convincing to me.

Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:20 am to
TJGator and the rest of the libtards......


Posted by Knight of Old
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:27 am to
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It's a distinction without a difference.
It's not like I've been exactly working my arse off on it but I am already weary of trying to 'splain to folks how obvious all this is... ( one very long-winded example - my specialty )

Nunes might be a start but to truly resonate, a critical mass of articulate advocates in Congress who can and are willing pound the pieces of the puzzle -in conjunction with hard evidence such as proof of illegal leaking and unmasking- is definitely a requirement.

Chances of Obama and his administration being knee-deep in this shite: 100%

Chances of someone in Obama's administration being held to account: prolly 50%

Chances of Obama getting caught 'red-handed': pretty infinitesimal - even some one turning state's evidence wouldn't be enough without actual damn fingerprints, etc.

Chances of the MSM media accurately reporting any of this: prolly around 0%
Posted by League Champs
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:12 am to
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What does Nunes mean by saying that the Trump campaign was "incidentally" surveilled?

It means they surveilled Trumps team 24/7, and only released those where they were talking to 'legally allowed' targets

However, the law says that the transcripts of Americans are to be destroyed if they have no foreign intel value. Which is exactly what Nunes said they were

And yet they were passed around, not destroyed


Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:45 am to
Pretty much the same news is being repackaged over and over, and every time it is each side stupidly jumps up and says "OMG THIS IS IT!!!!"
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:19 am to
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Pretty much the same news is being repackaged over and over,

No, this is new. Brand new. And not part of any prior admissions

Transcripts of Trump associates, not talking to Russian targets. And of no intel value. And sent to the WH. All the things we were told never happened, since the moment Trump tweeted

Who were they talking to? Why were those people targets, if not Russians? Why were the transcripts passed around? Why did the WH get briefed? Why hasn't the CIA or FBI responded since Trump tweeted?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:26 am to
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No, this is new. Brand new. And not part of any prior admissions
It's new, but it basically confirms what was suspected after the Flynn situation.

We are monitoring foreign governments, and therefore, communications are intercepted. And while US citizen's identities are supposed to be masked, someone illegally unmasked and leaked it.

Again. This is new, in the sense that it's confirmation, but we could have been focusing on this months ago. Trump should have focused in this very topic, rather than making unsupported later claims about HIMSELF and pre-election surveillance.
Posted by League Champs
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:29 am to
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but it basically confirms what was suspected after the Flynn situation

Not a person on the left wanted to admit the WH was involved

So yeah, new, and damning
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:33 am to
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And yet they were passed around, not destroyed


If the EO that was signed says before leaving office allowed this; then there is the Obama fingerprint.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:36 am to
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Not a person on the left wanted to admit the WH was involved

So yeah, new, and damning
Sure, but it's not a revelation for anyone who is reasonable and following the story that the former Administration is one of the few potential leaks.

I do doubt that one of the major players (whether Obama administration or IC) personally leaked it. I'm sure it's easy to trick a minion intoto being unsuspecting fall guy.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:37 am to
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do doubt that one of the major players (whether Obama administration or IC) personally leaked it. I'm sure it's easy to trick a minion intoto being unsuspecting fall guy


The problem with this is the Obama EO
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:40 am to
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If the EO that was signed says before leaving office allowed this; then there is the Obama fingerprint.
I suspect that this could have happened with or without the EO.

But the EO helps probably broaden the pool of potential leakers, making it harder to find him or her.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:40 am to
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I suspect that this could have happened with or without the EO.

But the EO helps probably broaden the pool of potential leakers, making it harder to find him or her.


And puts obamas fingerprints on it
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