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re: NPR: Rand Paul Bids To Loosen Democratic Hold On African-American Vote
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:22 pm to MJM
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:22 pm to MJM
quote:The depressing math that the GOP faces is that of the 20 solid/lean blue states and their 246* electoral votes. It makes it much easier to reach 270 vs. starting off with 206.
You must garner minority votes from swing states
*I arguably included NH and WI in the 246. Seems like FL, OH, CO and VA are the most swingable, but I am not well-studied on their demographics.
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:23 pm to a want
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"Personal responsibility" can sell in the AA community. For every knucklehead you see in the news there are many, many other law abiding citizens who know the AA community is in trouble/needs to embrace responsibility.
There was a meeting in Chicago recently where black folks gathered and were fed a steady diet of the same old blame game. They responded in a way that should make democrats and republicans take notice.
LINK
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This past Thursday, a town hall meeting hosted by Al Sharpton and the National Action Network to address gun violence exploded into a revolt against “Chicago Machine” politics, Mayor Rahm Emanuel and black alderman in City Hall with panel and audience members calling to vote out their elected officials. One 82-year-old preacher even called for “Tea Party” style meetings in some of Chicago’s south side communities such as Altgeld Gardens and Trumbull Park
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It would behoove the Republican party to engage the inner city communities with policy inclusiveness and hat tip to Senator Rand Paul for his recommendations for Detroit, on issues such as economic empowerment zones, small business growth, school choice, restoration of the black family, and running anti-establishment corrupt politicians.
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As you watch this video, just imagine Rev. Al’s face as he sat there. Of course the liberal progressives and the black acolytes of progressive socialism will say this video was taken out of context or does not portray the entire event – but it seems to me a pretty good sampling and the responses from the audience support this premise.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:46 pm to RollTide4Ever
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Moar Rand Paul News (visits Chicago)
Rand has a penchant for going into the belly of the beast.
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U.S. Senator Rand Paul, a potential 2016 Republican presidential candidate, called for expanded school choice for poor and minority children while visiting President Barack Obama’s Democrat-dominated hometown of Chicago.
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“No one in Washington really is very good at education and knows anything about education,” Paul said today at Josephinum Academy, an all-female Catholic high school northwest of Chicago’s downtown with a student population that’s just 5 percent non-Hispanic white.
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Later in the day, he’ll appear at the University of Chicago, where Obama taught law school. Tomorrow, Paul heads to Milwaukee for another event on school choice.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:51 pm to goldenbadger08
2016 is still a very cloudy picture for the Republicans in their pursuit of the White House.
The latest RCP average has no less than 5 potential candidates just 4 points apart at this very early stage. Huckabee at the high end of that with 13.8% and Ryan in 5th place with 9.8%, with Paul (13.3%), Bush (12.2%) and Christie (11.3%) bunched in between Huckabee and Ryan. Four additional candidates (Cruz, Rubio, Walker & Perry) score 5.0% or more. So that's NINE candidates within 8.8% of each other, and no one even at the 14% level.
With so much talk already swirling around the 2016 primaries and caucuses, no one is showing any signs at all of breaking away from the pack on a national basis.
And that's as it should be.
Unlike on the other side ...
The latest RCP average has no less than 5 potential candidates just 4 points apart at this very early stage. Huckabee at the high end of that with 13.8% and Ryan in 5th place with 9.8%, with Paul (13.3%), Bush (12.2%) and Christie (11.3%) bunched in between Huckabee and Ryan. Four additional candidates (Cruz, Rubio, Walker & Perry) score 5.0% or more. So that's NINE candidates within 8.8% of each other, and no one even at the 14% level.
With so much talk already swirling around the 2016 primaries and caucuses, no one is showing any signs at all of breaking away from the pack on a national basis.
And that's as it should be.
Unlike on the other side ...
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:54 pm to trackfan
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What you're saying makes no sense. If either McCain or Romney had gotten Ike's share of the Black vote, he wins the election. A vote is a vote, no matter where it comes from.
You have to go back over 50 years to get that type of support from black voters. THATS MY WHOLE POINT. It would take nothing short of a miracle for Rand to get 15-20% of the black vote.
But that's not the case with Hispanics as plainly seen two elections ago.
Hispanics have shown in modern history that they are willing to shift between the major parties; blacks have not.
Hence, they can make the greater impact.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:58 pm to Antonio Moss
I would like to see a gender breakdown on the aa vote.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:59 pm to Antonio Moss
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You have to go back over 50 years to get that type of support from black voters. THATS MY WHOLE POINT. It would take nothing short of a miracle for Rand to get 15-20% of the black vote.
You seem to be implying that Chris Christie performed a miracle when he got 23% of the Black vote in New Jersey last year.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:00 pm to trackfan
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:00 pm to RollTide4Ever
I believe women vote more Democrat than their male counterparts in every ethnic group.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:05 pm to trackfan
We can't piss this away.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:05 pm to RollTide4Ever
In 2012:
Black Males 87/13 in favor of Obama
Black Females 96/4 in favor of Obama
White Males 62/35 in favor of Romney
White Females 56/42 in favor of Romney
Black Females has the highest turnout percentage of any group.
Black Males 87/13 in favor of Obama
Black Females 96/4 in favor of Obama
White Males 62/35 in favor of Romney
White Females 56/42 in favor of Romney
Black Females has the highest turnout percentage of any group.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:10 pm to trackfan
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You seem to be implying that Chris Christie performed a miracle when he got 23% of the Black vote in New Jersey last year.
21% against a terrible candidate the DNC used as a sacrificial lamb. It was an 11% increase from 2009. He made a 20% increase with Hispanics in that same time frame.
I don't put much stock in projecting that state election to the national level - especially if the DNC runs Hillary.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:14 pm to Antonio Moss
Everyone is sick of her.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:18 pm to trackfan
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Mr. Paul was in New Hampshire last weekend, speaking to conservative activists at the Freedom Summit, emphasizing the need for Republicans to do a better job of reaching out to Hispanics and African-Americans.
That right.
Whether it's being a father, your job, being a husband/wife, a friend, or addressing a audience the first thing you need to do is show up. The GOP does not show up to address AAs (for the most part). Rand is breaking that mold which really is a sad indictment on the Republican brand.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:22 pm to Antonio Moss
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Black Females has the highest turnout percentage of any group.
That's because Romney and George Bush were going to put their vaginas back in chains
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:25 pm to GumboPot
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Whether it's being a father, your job, being a husband/wife, a friend, or addressing a audience the first thing you need to do is show up. The GOP does not show up to address AAs (for the most part). Rand is breaking that mold which really is a sad indictment on the Republican brand.
Romney spoke at an NAACP convention to a large audience during his campaign. He did a pretty good job IMO. They can do more, but it's not like it's completely off the radar.
Smaller government is good for everyone. If you don't bother showing up and selling people on that brand, the far left will create a brand for you. They do it every time they attempt to associate libertarianism or conservatism to racism.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:31 pm to trackfan
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Not true. For cultural reasons, Hispanics don't turnout like Black folks do. In 2012, Blacks made up 11.6% of the voting-age population but made up 13% of the votes cast, while Hispanics made up 15% of the voting-age population but made up only 9% of the votes cast. One of the legacies of the Civil Rights Movement is that even poor Blacks have had it instilled in them that they must vote
Especially in Texas Latino turnout is atrocious & if they turned out to vote in similar numbers to Blacks/Whites the State would begin to be more competitive (voting at the same percentage voting Obama).
Older Hispanics especially were a bit more loyal to the GOP(since Reagan amnesty 1986) , but the recent anti-immigrant rhetoric has turned off many younger ones. Rick Perry realizes this(& most Texas Republicans) & his perceived 'softness' on immigration(dream act) got him literally booed/jeered from the Presidential race.
Texas Republicans have avoided the hostile anti-immigrant rhetoric of other states politicians (like shooting immigrants from helicopters like feral hogs proposed by a Kansas Repubs ) as to not further alienate/rally them to turnout.
Confirming Blacks have been nearly 'guilted' into voting in elections(high profile especially) by friends , family ,organizations, church,etc......
Black radio between music traditionally has reminded it's listeners which Civil Rights Activist were killed ,beaten,etc...... for their right (Blacks)to vote.. Different mindset between the 2 groups towards voting.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:33 pm to sugar71
Rand is set to speak at U. of Chicago, with questioning by Axlerod to follow.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:39 pm to sugar71
I just read the article on Van de Putte on CNN and I'm shocked young Latinos don't vote. If the Dems can mine that Texas will eventually be in play.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:41 pm to dewster
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Romney spoke at an NAACP convention to a large audience during his campaign. He did a pretty good job IMO. They can do more, but it's not like it's completely off the radar.
GOP candidates speak to AA audiences when they have too. This lack of frequency needs to stop. GOP candidate need to be proactive and yes, pander to AA audiences on a regular basis. Rand is the first GOP politician that I have seen address AA audiences regularly and well before primary season to get a feel for their needs/wants and figure out how he can represent them in Washington. I've been following politics since I was a teen when Reagan was in office and Rand is the first GOP candidate (potential) that I've seen go into Democratic strongholds this early in the process. He could be starting a new trend that all GOP candidates will soon have to follow if they want any chance of competing.
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