re: Now that this debt ceiling agreement has passed, can Gaetz get McCarthy removed as SOH?

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You think Gaetz lost partners yesterday.

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There are no partners or friends, only allies to push agendas in Washedupton. Allies today won't be the allies of tomorrow.

Most people get it.

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It wasn't Gaetz group that negotiated this debacle. It was McCarthy's group.

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Gaet'z group didn't get to negotiate b/c they lost power.

McCarthy was able to lead negotiations b/c he gained power.

This isn't complicated. Did McCarthy's debt ceiling deal honor his agreement with Gatz? If not, can Gaetz do anything about it or has his power decreased?

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It was YOUR wing of the party

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I don't have a wing of a party.

Reuters backs OP.

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Kevin McCarthy earned his stripes as Republican speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday, navigating fierce hardline opposition to pass a debt ceiling bill containing federal spending limits that President Joe Biden for months vowed to resist.

Six months after he endured 15 humiliating floor votes just to be elected speaker, McCarthy proved capable of dragging Biden into negotiations over spending and other Republican priorities, and then marshalling two-thirds of his often fractious House Republican majority to enact bipartisan legislation.

"Keep underestimating us and we'll keep proving to the American public that we'll never give up," McCarthy told reporters after the vote.

The bill, approved by a 314-117 margin, lifts the government's $31.4 trillion debt ceiling in exchange for cutting non-defense discretionary spending and stiffening work requirements in assistance programs.

Yet it was a bruising victory for McCarthy. The bill gained 165 votes from Democrats, outnumbering the 149 from members of McCarthy's own Republican party.

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"They said he would never become speaker, and of course they were wrong. They said he would never be able to manage the floor effectively and we haven't had a single bill fail," Johnson said in an interview. "They said he wouldn't be able to cut a deal with the president, and they were wrong about that."

McCarthy has so far succeeded in passing the bill without drawing direct verbal attacks from former President Donald Trump, who urged Republicans to push for a default if they were not able to extract sufficient concessions from Democrats.

Trump, who is seeking a return to the White House in 2024, had blasted top Senate Republican Mitch McConnell for agreeing to raise the debt ceiling during Biden's first year in office. McConnell largely stayed in the background during these talks, which began to move forward after Biden agreed to one-on-one negotiations on May 9.

Avoiding Trump's ire appears to have protected McCarthy's standing with Republican voters nationally, some 44% of whom told a Reuters/Ipsos poll in May that they approve of his job performance, notably higher than McConnell's 29% approval rate.

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McCarthy's moment - debt ceiling vote secures Speaker's standing.

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They said he would never be able to manage the floor effectively and we haven't had a single bill fail," Johnson said in an interview. "They said he wouldn't be able to cut a deal with the president, and they were wrong about that.

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Because "bills" don't fail doesn't mean they are not failures.

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It was YOUR wing of the party.

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You’ve been on this board for 17 years. If you think SFP is aligned with McCarthy and his ilk your reading comprehension and critical thinking could use some work. Take a lap.

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You’ve been on this board for 17 years. If you think SFP is aligned with McCarthy and his ilk your reading comprehension and critical thinking could use some work. Take a lap.

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Then you've seen him go from left wing, to right wing, back to left wing.

He's sitting here blaming the few Republicans left who fought against this deal for the deal.

What do you think his point in this thread is?

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This was NOT the sentiment when Gaetz hijacked the SOH process

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so naive, both you and Gaetz.

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What changed?

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That's the point, nothing will, groomer.

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Then you've seen him go from left wing, to right wing, back to left wing.

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The only correct label was leftwing, and that was so long ago kids born at the end of that era are now graduating from high school

The only people who have ever called me "right wing" are...Leftists

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That's the point, nothing will, groomer.

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Apocalypse fetish

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Then MAGA/Patriots don't, either.

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They never did you stupid frick...hence the anti-establishment movement.

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It wasn't on this board when Gaetz allegedly cucked McCarthy

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McCarthy won the speakership. It was embarrassing for him. He lives under the threat of being removed. But, in the end, he's speaker. You seem to be the only one who was under the assumption that Gaetz was in control. That's a false premise and probably the source of your confusion. It mirrors the majority of your strawman arguments. You build a weak strawman and argue against it. It almost never represents truth or accuracy.

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It's false now, obviously, b/c that movement had one small moment of victory that was extrapolated by Patriots into a larger movement that simply doesn't exist.

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Congrats on pointing out the wing of the party fighting against continued OVERspending (estimated 4T of unfunded spending in next 2 years with no cap), fighting against the debacle of the southern border, fighting against the corruption within the DOJ, FBI, etc. isn't as powerful as it needs to be...and then pretending you aren't for those things.

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Nobody was arguing they were ever "in control"

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You are using its inability to control the speaker as a premise for its death. It's a circular argument. Small anti-establishment group isn't as powerful as said establishment therefore it doesn't exist.