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re: Note to MUH No-Plan peeps. This is the plan.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:12 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:12 pm to GeauxTigerTM
quote:33-5/16ths degree chess!
I think we can all agree the outcome looks good...but if Johnson was "The Plan" then why wasn't he in line right off the bat?
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Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:13 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Never stop clinging to dead end conventional wisdom politics.
My post has nothing to do with conventional politics?
Gaetz’s plan was transparently Jordan.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:13 pm to Stumpknocker
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The plan resembles the old Ali tactic. Rope a dope! It worked.
Explain. Are you suggesting Johnson was the guy all along...as they voted for Jim Jordan, etc? And they failed multiple times on purpose so that they could get in the guy they REALLY wanted when all hope looked lost?
If so, I'd love to see where you're getting that.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:13 pm to Indefatigable
The plan was to dump KM and get someone better 
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:14 pm to Flats
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Yeah, this sounds a lot like predicting the score of the football game in the 4th quarter with a minute left.
It was before the 4th quarter:
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Does the PT Board realize the GOP fight in the House is about how to spend money?Posted on 10/19/23 at 5:12 pm
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The battle is between single subject spending bills or continuing resolutions.
If you are for more fugal spending, spending on government programs that are debated, amended and voted into law where your congressman is put on record, then you want single subject appropriation bills.
If you want to allow our congressmen to continue to hide their votes for profligate spending and blowing up the federal deficit with no legislative justification then you are for business as usual, continuing resolutions.
Choose wisely.
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Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:15 pm to goatmilker
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The plan was to dump KM and get someone better
I like Johnson and have nothing negative to say about him.
You guys are going to be enormously disappointed if you think this means that the House will act wildly differently than it did under McCarthy. The GOP doesn’t have the majority required for that. Will be interesting to see what the chaos caucus does next month when there IS another CR.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:16 pm to GumboPot
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We're not doing [Continuing Resolutions] anymore. We're doing instead a messy process of doing 12 separate small spending bills that are single subject.
I'll bet you $100 this does not occur within a reasonable amount of time (say sometime in Spring of 2024).
We can send the money to BBonds to hold if you want to do the bet.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:17 pm to Indefatigable
Just celebrate the day. Be negative tomorrow 
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:18 pm to Indefatigable
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The GOP doesn’t have the majority required for that. Will be interesting to see what the chaos caucus does next month when there IS another CR.
Just an FYI, the senate has already taken up 3 appropriation bills that have already passed the House. The point is, it's a tell that they see the writing on the wall. They will not be given a CR to vote on. All appropriation bills start with the House.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:18 pm to Indefatigable
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You guys are going to be enormously disappointed if you think this means that the House will act wildly differently than it did under McCarthy. The GOP doesn’t have the majority required for that
The way this fight dragged on is an indication that Speaker Johnson will have a substantial impact. It won't erase the pedo in the WH or Dem majority in the senate, but it's going to matter a lot.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:19 pm to GumboPot
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It was before the 4th quarter:
How many times do I need to read that before it details feinting with Scalise then going with Johnson? Two times didn't do it.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:20 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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I think we can all agree the outcome looks good...but if Johnson was "The Plan" then why wasn't he in line right off the bat?
We went though multiple options before his name even came up.
Yesterday "the plan" was reduced to just ousting McCarthy
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:20 pm to GumboPot
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The point is, it's a tell that they see the writing on the wall. They will not be given a CR to vote on. All appropriation bills start with the House.
They will absolutely be eventually given a CR. The 12 separate appropriations bills is well intentioned in theory but has zero chance whatsoever of passing the Senate or getting Biden’s signature.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:21 pm to Indefatigable
quote:I feel bad for him. SotH is a career ended for any Republican. Everyone will hate him in a few weeks when he folds on the CR.
I like Johnson and have nothing negative to say about him.
quote:The problem i the House (and Senate) is the blown opportunity of the 2022 election cycle. The only reason we got here is because Democrats helped (because the isht show did nothing but help them).
You guys are going to be enormously disappointed if you think this means that the House will act wildly differently than it did under McCarthy. The GOP doesn’t have the majority required for that.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'll bet you $100 this does not occur within a reasonable amount of time (say sometime in Spring of 2024).
It has already occurred in the house in part. Committees were holding up other appropriations so that we can run up against shutdown politics then the House would be forced to ignore the work they did on many appropriation bills and just pass a CR. That was McCarthy's hope.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'll bet you $100 this does not occur within a reasonable amount of time
You got em now Slo.
And you were really really really and I mean really wrong blasting all us Matt supporters in this. Its like wrong as wrong can be around here. Plenty of time though to go all negative again. Oh sh!t you already did
. Awesome man be you.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:22 pm to Cosmo
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Agree
The world doesnt collapse with no speaker
In fact its probably better
So you're disappointed in Johnson getting the gavel?
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:22 pm to GumboPot
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It has already occurred in the house in part. C
I'm talking 12 bills passed in both chambers and signed by POTUS.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:22 pm to Flats
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How many times do I need to read that before it details feinting with Scalise then going with Johnson? Two times didn't do it.
You are focusing on the people. I'm talking about the process in terms of the "plan"...CRs versus single subject bills.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:22 pm to goatmilker
The fact that someone was able to pick up the pieces does not make Gaetz’s attention whoring a good strategy.
The GOP gained nothing from this.
The GOP gained nothing from this.
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