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re: Not a single one of you toe spreaders would have run into that school

Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:37 pm to
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56001 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:37 pm to
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Not a single one


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I’m insinuating 99%


I hope you see my point and if I had to guess your 99% is at least double digits too high.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32374 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:42 pm to
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MileHighDraw
Speak for yourself you fricking pussy.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
18924 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:45 pm to
How could anyone even think twice about going in with children at risk???
Posted by pizzathehut
west monroe
Member since Jul 2016
957 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:50 pm to
Been there ....pusie
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19254 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:58 pm to
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How could anyone even think twice about going in with children at risk???
Lord….

Cop runs in, on edge because there’s a shooter involved. Sees movement and fires, killing a 9 year old.

Would that have been ok for you?

Take about 5 seconds and put yourself in their shoes. You’re going into a building you may not be that familiar with, where a stray shot from you is liable to kill some kid because you don’t have any idea what’s really going on. It’s a situation you’ve never trained for, and frankly you don’t know WTF to do.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56001 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:02 am to
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Sees movement and fires, killing a 9 year old.


If a cop fires at the first thing he sees moving then he shouldn't be a cop.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19254 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:11 am to
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If a cop fires at the first thing he sees moving then he shouldn't be a cop.
You’re the one saying they should run in headlong with nothing resembling a plan in the hopes they won’t screw up.

Pretty easy to say, but unless you’ve trained extensively in combat environment situations you couldn’t do it. And I sincerely doubt officers do a lot of that kind of ongoing training.

There’s a reason they bring in tactical units for things.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56001 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:17 am to
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You’re the one saying they should run in headlong with nothing resembling a plan in the hopes they won’t screw up.


You bet. It's better than wasting time formulating a plan while children are being shot up. What good is a plan if everyone is killed?
Posted by mjfrog93
Member since Aug 2018
1225 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 5:03 am to
not a reply to anyone. But, LOL, a lot of folks got trolled by a scrawny little frick that couldn't beat up a fat 4 foot 10 year old at the Sonic. What are we doing here?
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7633 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 5:52 am to
COWARDS!

As a nation we should be ashamed. Just 60 years ago our grandfathers stormed the beaches of Normandy to save Europeans from a powerful and ruthless regime, and now we are too scared to save our own children from a mental midget with a gun. There is no excuse for this, every police officer at that scene who failed to act should be fired and forever banned from serving in law enforcement or security, they are a disgrace.
Posted by Joe_Dirte
The Boot
Member since Feb 2019
802 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 6:27 am to
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A cops job isn’t to run into a building and die.


It kind of is in this particular scenario. They are trained to not die but it’s highly possible they will. And if it wasn’t their job then I’d bet the good citizens of Uvalde would rather spend their tax money on engineered security measures at the school as opposed to training personnel who won’t engage a situation such as this.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 7:12 am to
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have. On multiple occasions. But this thread isn’t about me.


F%cking liar!

We pay them, we give them unlimited training, especially w guns/weapons. We out them in $80k vehicles and clothe them with technology like body armor, shields, etc.
For a majority of their career, like 98%, they are danger free.
And yes, when a school full of small.kids is ambushed. I gdamn demand that they get in there and take the attention off of the children and take that risk!.
But to NOT go in, and on top of that, stop real men who want to go in, AND arrest them...is about as fricking cowardly of an act a human being can do.

Can upu imagine waking up today and putting on a cop uniform and acting like your going "protect and serve", if you are one of the fricking cowards who stood there while the kids were slaughtered?

You are the devil himself...please cease to live.
Posted by gothamdawg
NYC
Member since Nov 2015
1095 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 7:13 am to
If you've ever been in a dire situation where you had to save someone's life, you assess the risk and quickly realize that saving the life is the priority.
There literally is no time for fear.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131090 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 8:11 am to
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I have. On multiple occasions. But this thread isn’t about me.
Of course it is. You're a toe spreader.

There were loads of unarmed parents willing to run into that school. The AR-armed, kevlar-protected cops prevented it. Running to the children's aid is the natural instinct for most adults, men or women.

The fact that you imagine otherwise does make this thread about you, and does in fact establish you as likely the only "toe-spreader" in the thread.
Posted by SaintInBham
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2015
980 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 8:27 am to
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1: If their children were in there? 2: If going in was literally their job? 3: If they were just a guy carrying in the area? 90% 33% 5% (if cops hadn’t already locked down scene)


#1 gets 100% for me even if it’s with nothing more than an ink pen held in the stab ready position
Posted by the_truman_shitshow
Member since Aug 2021
2755 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 8:28 am to
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5282 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 8:30 am to
For my kid, absolutely. For random kids if I would have had a gun yes. If I would not have had a gun for random kids then no.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19881 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 8:35 am to
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We pay them, we give them unlimited training, especially w guns/weapons. We out them in $80k vehicles and clothe them with technology like body armor, shields, etc.


Most officers fire their weapon 1 or 2 times a year to “qualify” in a sterile range with ear protection and safety glasses. Pretty shitty training for a police officer. The better ones at least go to the range and use their 100 rounds a month allotment. The serious ones enter competitions to train and build the skillset.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
18924 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 1:51 pm to
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Cop runs in, on edge because there’s a shooter involved. Sees movement and fires, killing a 9 year old.



Not cop. COPS. 50+

And I wasn't talking about cops - the statement was "nobody would do that" to which several in this thread clearly said "frick yes I would"
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
18924 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 1:53 pm to
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It’s a situation you’ve never trained for, and frankly you don’t know WTF to do.


I can't speak for this community, but my wife's school (the whole school district to be clear) hosts the police department and SWAT team annually for an active shooter drill. They use dummy rounds, have actors, and it is incredible intense. They know the schools like the back of their hand.
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