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Posted on 5/20/25 at 11:06 am to Powerman
Rambling ? haha
I tried to give you a situation that you maybe could comprehend but obviously you can’t. Maybe like most childlike mindsets you will learn and grasp better without a tragedy striking and realtime action is needed
I tried to give you a situation that you maybe could comprehend but obviously you can’t. Maybe like most childlike mindsets you will learn and grasp better without a tragedy striking and realtime action is needed
Posted on 5/20/25 at 11:06 am to SDVTiger
London has had that system in effect since facial recognition left the beta stage....and it wasn't at just Heathrow or Gatwick. It was all over London on the street. Now it's all over the UK.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 11:06 am to BTROleMisser
Claiming someone has the exact opposite opinion of what they articulated should be called out
Has nothing to do with knighting
Has nothing to do with knighting
Posted on 5/20/25 at 11:07 am to Nosevens
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I tried to give you a situation that you maybe could comprehend but obviously you can’t
You crafted an extremely poor example that doesn't justify the use of facial recognition technologies that track everyone
Posted on 5/20/25 at 11:07 am to KiwiHead
4commies should avoid Vegas at all costs.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 11:12 am to Powerman
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It sounds like everyone is willing to bend over and take it and just say that this is inevitable.
Unfortunately it's too late already. The technology long ago passed the ability of our laws or elections to deal with this problem. And it is a problem, a grave and accelerating one.
I think people are really in denial about what society will look like in the next 2, 5, or 10 years.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 11:16 am to Powerman
Surveil innocent? How are the doing surveillance of innocent if they using to filter them OUT ? Have you never walked through an airport or train station? Are you feeling terrible on say a neighbor pointing his Ring video towards the street for surveillance. Here you are getting upset about innocent people maybe on a video but get mad about capturing criminal illegals preying on those innocent people
Posted on 5/20/25 at 11:17 am to 4cubbies
A link to donate to the ACLU? Are you kidding me?
But, why not use all technologies available to reduce crime in one of the highest crime cities in the country? Do it right. Get the proper approval and have a quick and easy method for misidentification cases to be cleared. Made it known to the general public that it is being used. There are cameras everywhere. What's different about these (other the PD apparently overstepped their authority in putting them out and using them)?
But, why not use all technologies available to reduce crime in one of the highest crime cities in the country? Do it right. Get the proper approval and have a quick and easy method for misidentification cases to be cleared. Made it known to the general public that it is being used. There are cameras everywhere. What's different about these (other the PD apparently overstepped their authority in putting them out and using them)?
Posted on 5/20/25 at 11:18 am to Nosevens
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Here you are getting upset about innocent people maybe on a video but get mad about capturing criminal illegals preying on those innocent people
I'm not. That's in your imagination.
It's the use of face detection technologies to that end that are concerning.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 11:22 am to 4cubbies
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So why collect data on everyone else?
Are they "collecting" data on everyone, or scanning everyone against collected data / images of fugitives? Do they keep images of everyone who walks past the cameras?
Not being a smartass-- asking.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 11:24 am to Powerman
To who ? Libs, ACLU or criminals ?
Posted on 5/20/25 at 11:30 am to 4cubbies
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It shouldn't be.
Well it will be and there will be notbing you can do about it
I shpupdnt have to show a passport to fly domestic cause of a " real ID"
Posted on 5/20/25 at 11:31 am to Powerman
So, if a cop on patrol recognizes a fugitive walking down the street from a photo in his pocket, that's better than a computer doing the same thing.
Help me to understand.
Help me to understand.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 11:32 am to 4cubbies
This post was edited on 5/20/25 at 11:34 am
Posted on 5/20/25 at 11:34 am to 4cubbies
so from a liberty standpoint....and just overall constitutional look at this
I hate this shite and dont ever want it to be used as its ripe for abuse and actually agree with the ACLU on that.
but.....
as a normal everyday citizen....what is going to effect my life the most, either positive or negative.....if we are being honest with the way NOLA crime is....this has about a 99% better chance of having a positive effect on my life than it ever does of having a negative effect.
the constitutionalist in me says....dont give an inch but the pragmatic and realistic side of me looks at this....and says frick them people, get those assholes off the street so I can enjoy the city again.
and ill be honest...i dont like things like the RICO act, stop and frisk or the way Rudy used the broken window theory as I thought it was government abuse of power.......but you can not deny the positive effects and outcomes it had on NYC as a whole. Where some people wrongly prosecuted....im sure, but tens of millions of lifes were effected positively.
This is the same kind of thing....this has the ability to really help clean up the streets of NOLA if used correctly and have a big time positive effect.
we cant scream that we want the streets to be cleaned up and then sue every time the police figure out a new way to fight crime.
I hate this shite and dont ever want it to be used as its ripe for abuse and actually agree with the ACLU on that.
but.....
as a normal everyday citizen....what is going to effect my life the most, either positive or negative.....if we are being honest with the way NOLA crime is....this has about a 99% better chance of having a positive effect on my life than it ever does of having a negative effect.
the constitutionalist in me says....dont give an inch but the pragmatic and realistic side of me looks at this....and says frick them people, get those assholes off the street so I can enjoy the city again.
and ill be honest...i dont like things like the RICO act, stop and frisk or the way Rudy used the broken window theory as I thought it was government abuse of power.......but you can not deny the positive effects and outcomes it had on NYC as a whole. Where some people wrongly prosecuted....im sure, but tens of millions of lifes were effected positively.
This is the same kind of thing....this has the ability to really help clean up the streets of NOLA if used correctly and have a big time positive effect.
we cant scream that we want the streets to be cleaned up and then sue every time the police figure out a new way to fight crime.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 11:54 am to Nosevens
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Your movements ? Like to a store or doctor? Maybe a client or relative? Would be really bad if while doing so your child happened to be carjacked by a criminal and transported into the depths of the hood. The police would have no leads whatsoever, well unless the license plate on car was captured and carjacker identified by a camera . Now if you were up to nefarious activities then I get your point
My car was stolen out of my driveway about a year and a half ago. I sent the video of it happening to the police. Nothing ever became of it.
I don't have any faith whatsoever that data collected from these cameras would be used to benefit the public good in the vast majority of instances.
I'm about as goody two-shoes as they come and I'm not comfortable with the government using facial recognition technology to track me.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 11:57 am to TigerCoon
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Are they "collecting" data on everyone
Yes
They're scraping social media of everyone to use in their system
Posted on 5/20/25 at 11:58 am to Powerman
that sounds fishy
Posted on 5/20/25 at 12:01 pm to Diamondawg
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But, why not use all technologies available to reduce crime in one of the highest crime cities in the country?
Clearly the technology isn't doing anything to keep people safe if you're claiming the city is "one of the highest crime cities in the country."
Seems like collecting data for no real public benefit, aside from this extremely rare one-off.
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There are cameras everywhere. What's different about these (other the PD apparently overstepped their authority in putting them out and using them)?
The government does not have direct access to the vast majority of cameras without a warrant.
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