re: Nobel Winner to Obama on Global Warming: 'Mr. President, You're Wrong'

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FYI, he won the Nobel in physics like 40+ years ago.

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Oh, ok... yours must be more recent.

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So many radical predictions, even if they're BS, have made headlines and not come to fruition. Especially when the solution seems to involve giving the government more money.

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And this one of the principal problems when politics and science mix.

Whatever the truth is, the arguments and predictions of a dishonest politician (redundant), are irrelevant to that truth.

It's hard not to be impacted by it though.

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You're going to dispute geology and the fossile record? Scientists have been able to figure out past climate conditions by looking at what lived at the time and where. If you're disputing that, you're disputing an entire field of science that has been around a lot longer than the climate change theory.

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The fossil record isn't in your favor. Ice cores and fossils show that the warming and CO2 levels we are experiencing are far from unprecedented, even during recorded human history. The Roman period was considered to be cooler than today, but the Medieval Warm period was much warmer, so warm, in fact, that great wines were being made in England. Then, don't forget the Little Ice Age which ran from the 1600s through the end of the 19th century, which included events like the infamous "Year Without a Summer". All of these climate changes happened prior to industrialization.

The fact is, that we are actually just in an inter-glacial stage in a prolonging ice age. The earth has been prone to ice ages ever since North and South America joined together, which blocked Ocean currents causing these glacial cycles to move back and forth every 20-40 thousand years or so. The last glacial retreat occurred around 10 thousand years ago, so we've hopefully got a little time before the glaciers advance again, but in the mean time, we should enjoy the warming. It will someday cease and start going the other way.

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You're going to dispute geology and the fossile record?

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Personally, my issue with the fossil record, is the precision of those records, especially as they relate to today's measurements. And since we are talking about variables that require precise measurements, the precision (or lack thereof) of fossil records is too often overlooked as it relates to the certainty of the arguments and predictions.

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It will someday cease and start going the other way.

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According to the chart, if you believe it's even remotely accurate, it shows a dramatic increase that is demonstrated as unprecedented since at least 2000bc.

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And this one of the principal problems when politics and science mix.

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It isn't even limited to science. Look at how hard the democrats dogged Romney in 2012. Mitt friggin' Romney. To borrow the left's phrase, Mitt was the most quality candidate I've seen on any level. In addition, he was by all accounts a pretty damn decent guy. Being an alarmist hurts any cause.

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It's hard not to be impacted by it though.

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Extremely.

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And since we are talking about variables that require precise measurements, the precision (or lack thereof) of fossil records is too often overlooked as it relates to the certainty of the arguments and predictions.

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They have the best equipment and are able to measure precisely and still fail to accurately predict anything. Despite their efforts and equipment they frick up even simple things like accurately recording temperature.

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Was his breakthrough in any way-shape-or-form even tangentially related to climate? I'll save you the trouble - no.

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Al Gore"s was?

The dem-wit global warming nuts have to be direct descendants of the kooks in the past that would throw people into volcanoes. They've updated their game and now want to tax the people for breathing, keeping our homes warm/cool and traveling in cars. Humans cannot control the fricking climate by sacrificing the population or any other method. It's all a bunch of bullshite driven by greed. Climate fluctuated long before humans existed and will do so long after we're gone and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do about it.

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Look at how hard the democrats dogged Romney in 2012. Mitt friggin' Romney

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Which I think played a significant role in Trump's victory. Like someone pointed out they "cried wolf" too much, and trying to portray Romney as some bigot and bully was a perfect example.

So even if their portrayal of Trump was(is) correct, it was harder to buy it when they do it it all the time.

And as it relates to climate change, they've seemed to choose the most exteme predictions of warming as well as the most negative effect of these predictions, and thus far they've been overstated.

So even if they are correct about the warming and its negative effects in the future, they've comprised they're going to be taken less seriously because of their history.