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Nobel prize winner claims covid was manipulated with molecular tools

Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:06 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:06 pm

https://www.gilmorehealth.com/chinese-coronavirus-is-a-man-made-virus-according-to-luc-montagnier-the-man-who-discovered-hiv/

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Chinese Coronavirus Is a Man Made Virus According to Luc Montagnier the Man Who Discovered HIVBy Robert Miller | Published on April 16, 2020
Reviewed By Gilmore Health | On: April 17, 2020


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Contrary to the narrative that is being pushed by the mainstream that the COVID 19 virus was the result of a natural mutation and that it was transmitted to humans from bats via pangolins, Dr Luc Montagnier the man who discovered the HIV virus back in 1983 disagrees and is saying that the virus was man made.


Dr Luc Montagnier Image Courtesy of Prolineserver
Professor Luc Montagnier, 2008 Nobel Prize winner for Medicine, claims that SARS-CoV-2 is a manipulated virus that was accidentally released from a laboratory in Wuhan, China. Chinese researchers are said to have used coronaviruses in their work to develop an AIDS vaccine. HIV DNA fragments are believed to have been found in the SARS-CoV-2 genome.


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We knew that the Chinese version of how the coronavirus emerged was increasingly under attack, but here’s a thesis that tells a completely different story about the Covid-19 pandemic, which is already responsible for more than 110,000 deaths worldwide. According to Professor Luc Montagnier, winner of the Nobel Prize for Medicine in 2008 for “discovering” HIV as the cause of the AIDS epidemic together with Françoise Barré-Sinoussi, the SARS-CoV-2 is a virus that was manipulated and accidentally released from a laboratory in Wuhan, China, in the last quarter of 2019. According to Professor Montagnier, this laboratory, known for its work on coronaviruses, tried to use one of these viruses as a vector for HIV in the search for an AIDS vaccine!

“With my colleague, bio-mathematician Jean-Claude Perez, we carefully analyzed the description of the genome of this RNA virus,” explains Luc Montagnier, interviewed by Dr Jean-François Lemoine for the daily podcast at Pourquoi Docteur, adding that others have already explored this avenue: Indian researchers have already tried to publish the results of the analyses that showed that this coronavirus genome contained sequences of another virus, … the HIV virus (AIDS virus), but they were forced to withdraw their findings as the pressure from the mainstream was too great.



Link to original article/podcast for source will be in next post:
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:06 pm to
https://www.pourquoidocteur.fr/Articles/Question-d-actu/32184-EXCLUSIF-Pour-Pr-Montagnier-SARS-CoV-2-serait-virus-manipule-Chinois-l-ADN-de-VIH-podcast

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Covid-19
EXCLUSIF - Pour le Pr Montagnier, SARS-CoV-2 serait un virus manipulé par les Chinois avec de l'ADN de VIH ! (podcast)
Par la rédaction
Le coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 responsable de la pandémie de Covid-19 qui a déjà fait plus de 120 000 morts dans le monde serait un virus manipulé, sorti accidentellement d'un laboratoire chinois à la recherche d'un vaccin contre le SIDA. C'est l'incroyable révélation que le professeur Luc Montagnier, prix Nobel de médecine en 2008 pour la "découverte" du VIH, fait aujourd'hui à Pourquoi Docteur au micro du Dr Jean-François Lemoine.



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EXCLUSIVE - For Professor Montagnier, SARS-CoV-2 is a virus manipulated by the Chinese with HIV DNA! (podcast)
By the editorial staff
The SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus responsible for the Covid-19 pandemic which has already killed more than 120,000 people in the world is a manipulated virus, accidentally released from a Chinese laboratory in search of an AIDS vaccine. This is the incredible revelation that Professor Luc Montagnier, Nobel Prize in Medicine in 2008 for the "discovery" of HIV, made today to Pourquoi Docteur au micro du Dr Jean-François Lemoine.



I think this is the articlr that also contains the podcast in french:

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Any french speakers who can confirm this for us? We would all greatly appreciate it.

viv_hopla
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French speaker here. Yes it is the podcast.

Basically he is saying his team looked at the virus ARN and discovered that its genome contains sequences of the HIV genome. An Indian team had already discovered that. They tried to publish an the article but had to retract it because it wasn't validated by China.

The interviewer asks : is it possible that it is a mutation that could have occurred in a HIV patient? He says no, such a modification has had to be done in the lab.

He then asks : were the chinese making a biological weapon or trying to make an HIV vaccine?

The professor answers that they may have been trying to make an HIV vaccine, using a coronavirus as "carrier". But at some point they fricked up and it escaped.

He says it's sad that you can't publish any paper not validated by China, it doesn't help the truth. He says China should admit they fricked up. Mistakes are human.

He also explains that the "non-natural" parts (added HIV sequences) of the covid genome tend to gradually disappear in the samples collected on more recent infected patients. He says nature is reharmonizing, the virus will attenua
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:08 pm to
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ThinePreparedAni
This thing was made for you and you were made for it.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:11 pm to
well...no shite
Posted by BayBengal9
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Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:14 pm to
I believe it... if Wu Flu came from a lab (it almost certainly did), then it HAD to be manipulated in some way. You don't do genetic research without manipulating the genome in some way. Whether that is inserting other DNA/RNA fragments via CRISPR or testing the mutations, it would still be considered genetic manipulation...

The only two questions that we really need answered anymore are:
1) Was it being manipulated for legitimate research or nefarious bioweapon research?
2) Was it released intentionally or accidentally?
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

1) Was it being manipulated for legitimate research or nefarious bioweapon research?
2) Was it released intentionally or accidentally?




Both fair questions...

Still makes below very, very suspect...

Posted by OchoDedos
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:24 pm to
Globalist's are doing everything possible to have this quashed. They stand to lose billions in a Chinese economic collapse, which will surely happen as countries either demand compensation or force draconian sanctions on Chinese financials and manufacturing.
Posted by Free888
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:25 pm to
This is completely consistent with what a microbiologist friend said to me about 6 weeks ago when he first looked at the structure of the virus. Said no way that happened naturally, shares too many variants with HIV..
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:26 pm to
Dr. Paul Contrell says the same thing when interviewed by Stefan Molyneux.

Dr. Paul Contrell's background is this:

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He has been awarded a Ph.D. specializing in finance from Walden University. He has also earned a M.B.A. and B.S. from Wayne State University. Engineering certificates from Massachusetts Institute of Technology (M.I.T.) have also been awarded to him. Dr. Cottrell is currently at Harvard University as an ALM candidate specializing in Biology and has completed the Pre-Medical program at Fordham University. He lives in New York, NY.


Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:32 pm to
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Was it released intentionally or accidentally?


To me the bigger question is,” did China know of the release, and if so, how soon and what did they do once they knew!”
Posted by MsHoghunter
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:42 pm to
XiNN demands you stop floating these fantasy conspiracy theories and repeat after them CHINA GOOD, TRUMP BAD!
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:47 pm to
Yep. This article is from Feb 14th.

Scientists slam Indian study that fueled coronavirus rumors

China and the WHO doing China and WHO things.

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The coronavirus epidemic in China has infected more than 40,000 people and killed more than 1,000. The source of the highly contagious virus remains a mystery as scientists around the world debate whether it originated in bats, snakes, pangolins or humans.

A preprint scientific manuscript published Jan. 31 by a group of Indian researchers suggested that the virus, known as COVID-19, may have been deliberately engineered using the HIV. The findings, which fed conspiracy theories that the new virus might be a bioweapon, have sparked a huge controversy. The authors withdrew the paper on Feb. 2 from the bioRxiv preprint server.
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 2:49 pm
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:53 pm to
It was being developed as a bio weapon and was released intentionally, IMHO.
There are too many other ways to develop an aids vaccine to use something this dangerous. Then they waited weeks after it’s release to tell anyone about it. Plus the stopped domestic flights out of wuhan but not international flights.
There is not a doubt in my mind.
My only question is how deep was the American left involved in this project.
Posted by SeeeeK
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 3:06 pm to
One of the WHO peeps claimed this at the very beginning.

Claimed it was a chemical weapon made by China. Haven't heard from the guy since.

Did he get cancelled?
Posted by PhDoogan
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 3:42 pm to
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Basically he is saying his team looked at the virus ARN and discovered that its genome contains sequences of the HIV genome.


Great- so now the Chini have developed a bastardized highly contagious respiratory version of HIV. Way to go!



Posted by SmelvinRat
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 3:44 pm to
China is asshoe...
Posted by YF12
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 3:46 pm to
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Nobel prize winner


And that means what exactly? They arent known for picking people for awards that deserve them.







This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 3:47 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 4:01 pm to
So does this mean people who developed antibodies also developed HIV antibodies?
Posted by puse01
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 4:03 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 11:17 am
Posted by MasonTiger
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 4:08 pm to
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