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re: No evidence of fraud in GA

Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:50 am to
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:50 am to
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People say "show me evidence of voter fraud". Right now there are several threads on PT which prove, factual, voter fraud but the same TDS infected people won't admit the obvious.
It's very similar to the people who say a man can be a woman, but refuse to define a woman.
Craziness. Delusion.




it is futile to engage with morons who cannot accept truths that are self evident.

they are blinded by hate and stupidity.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:50 am to
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They will circle back to “it’s been debunked” without it ever having been investigated, let alone debunked.




100% this.

The general public won't view these clips for themselves and just drink the no fraud kool-aid.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:51 am to
Right or wrong Trump didn't win his lawsuits. That's just facts. Personally I think it was wrong and I was very upset about it but Trump had his chance to fight it and spent those critical days after the election chasing ghosts instead of focusing on what he could prove and lost his chance. So now it's all moot.

Let's go attack the folks speaking the truth though instead of the Democrats though, brilliant. BTW polls show over half the country thinks the charges against Trump are legit so good luck changing their minds.

The real question of course, Why would DeSantis do this? lol
Posted by TuDog
Boston
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:51 am to
The can't beat TRUMP without cheating. Deal.
Posted by TheSadvocate
North Shore
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:52 am to
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They’ve gone all-in on “no evidence of election fraud” so hard that I doubt this gets any publicity.



Bring on the discovery phase of the Trump trial
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:53 am to
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several questions arise. Other than the complete lack of context of the video,


Agree that more context would be awesome. I'm a huge stickler for 100% transparency. Let's see it all! From the start to the finish.

Then you say this...

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but it has to be able to stand up to scrutiny, this one like all the others dosen't.


So you really don't give a frick about context, just vomiting shite onto a message board and...

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just looking to validate your pre-conceived beliefs
This post was edited on 8/16/23 at 11:55 am
Posted by tigger42day
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:55 am to
The key is how many votes one creates.

Scanning a ballot 75 times is too easy to prove. They didn’t do that. This steal was planned out for 4 years. Covid just made it easier.

Creating ballots/votes for registered people who don’t vote and getting ballots from willing non voting people to mass fill out for your candidate are much much harder to expose.

Today, I’m sure in real time one, with the right connections, can fairly accurately track who voted and who didn’t vote and who requested mail in ballots. You then create a ballot for the people who didn’t vote or request a mail in ballot and ta da, you have an unchallengeable ballot, unless you call every voter to see if they voted.

That coupled with the mass creation of ballots for non voting people in the cities and for people no longer living in the state etc. and it’s easy to create enough votes which will withstand all initial attempts to validate.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:57 am to
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Right or wrong Trump didn't win his lawsuits. That's just facts. Personally I think it was wrong and I was very upset about it but Trump had his chance to fight it


Which ones did he argue in court and lose?
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:04 pm to
BTW, here is a response to the voter fraud accusations and what they found after the investigations into the claims stating the results point by point. There were a few cases of fraud but very few and they were prosecuted. Take it FWIW:

Point by point on the accusations of election fraud and results

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:07 pm to
Forest and trees.

Georgia bastardized their tabulation process in key counties and we’re all supposed to pretend it didn’t happen.

If you’d like to pretend with them, you’re free to do so. I’m not joining you.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:08 pm to
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It doesn't matter how many times the ballot is scanned, it only matters how many times the votes are counted.

If you scan the same ballot 75 times and it's counted 75 times -- massive fraud. If you scan the ballot 75 times and it's counted once, it's just a waste of effort.

Also: the entire state was hand recounted. Every ballot scanned, checked and rechecked.


I understand that. But the only ballots scanned were the ballots that were counted.
As far as the recount, evidently the recount people were covering up the fraud if they counted twice more and didn't discover and report the ballots in the video.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:09 pm to
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Also: the entire state was hand recounted. Every ballot scanned, checked and rechecked.


How do you know this?
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:10 pm to
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ight or wrong Trump didn't win his lawsuits. That's just facts. Personally I think it was wrong and I was very upset about it but Trump had his chance to fight it


Only a few were actually heard and he won those, over 50 were never heard because they lacked "standing".
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25173 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:16 pm to
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New analysis shows that Trump’s lawsuits were not universally dismissed by courts. Would this change the outcome of the presidential elections?

Courts worked on 22 separate cases and decided on their merits. According to this, Trump prevailed in 15 as confirmed by citizen journalist John Droz Jr., a physicist and environmental advocate in Morehead City, N.C.

In other words, Trump and Republicans won two-thirds of the cases. Droz and volunteers went through court filings to follow 81 lawsuits connected to the 2020 presidential election. 11 cases were withdrawn or consolidated. 23 were dismissed for lack of base and evidence. What about the 47 cases?

Trump and his group “have WON the majority of 2020 election cases fully heard, and then decided on the merits!” Droz said in a statement. “Is that what the mainstream media is reporting?”

Here are the legal victories for Republicans:


https://thetruereporter.com/trump-won-two-thirds-of-election-lawsuits-where-merits-considered/
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:16 pm to
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No evidence of fraud in GA


The left is profoundly astute at coming up with these phony thresholds that can never be met in order to keep them as issues in perpetuity. There is quite literally NO amount of evidence which could be produced to make them admit there was fraud and wrongdoing. Even direct videotape is dismissed.

It is akin to me of reparations...they want reparations but there is literally no amount large enough to dole out which would satiate their desire to get more and keep the exact same argument in play the very moment they get them. It is a bottomless pit, just as the "evidence" they claim to seek of fraud. Whatever is handed to them it will never be enough!
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:19 pm to
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How do you know this?


He doesn’t know it because it didn’t happen.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:21 pm to
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It doesn't matter how many times the ballot is scanned, it only matters how many times the votes are counted.



What would be a valid reason for scanning a ballot twice?

(not involving a recount process... I get a ballot would be scanned again in a recount)
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:25 pm to
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Point by point on the accusations of election fraud and results


Your evidence is Twitter user AG Hamilton from Michigan, USA and his tweets?
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
5110 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:35 pm to
Just for the record this story broke a year ago.

Some ballots initially double-counted in Fulton before recount

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July 13, 2021


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A duplicate write-in vote for singer Kanye West was a big clue that some absentee ballots had been counted twice in Fulton County.

Digital ballot images made public under Georgia’s new voting law show nearly 200 ballots — including one for West — that election officials initially scanned two times last fall before a recount.


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The ballots counted twice would have given Biden 31 extra votes. After a recount, official results reflected that Trump gained a total of 121 absentee votes in Fulton.


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The overall number of ballots counted in Georgia generally matched the number of voters who checked in at polling places or returned absentee ballots. Manual and machine recounts found similar totals for each candidate.


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The most obvious example of duplicates in the initial count occurred in a batch of 99 ballots first scanned the morning of Oct. 28, then scanned again about an hour later, with the second batch tallied in exact reverse order from the first. Those batches had 58 votes for Biden, 39 for Trump, one for Libertarian Jo Jorgensen and one for West.


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Other Georgia counties made larger vote-counting errors than Fulton’s during the initial tally.

Election workers in three counties discovered a total of more than 3,300 new votes stored on memory cards that hadn’t been loaded into election computers. A different issue in Floyd County led to 2,600 ballots going unscanned. Those ballots were included in the recount and in Georgia’s official certified results.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:36 pm to
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The overall number of ballots counted in Georgia generally matched the number of voters who checked in at polling places or returned absentee ballots. Manual and machine recounts found similar totals for each candidate.


Read this again slowly and let your brain absorb it.
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