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re: Newt: an absolutely rigged election in 2020

Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:26 pm to
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actions of the courts

Not fraud

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is itself fraudulent.

No

Just because you disagree (because your team was on the wrong side of the ruling) doesn't make it fraud.

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Given that fact, the rest of your arguments are not even relevant.


Yes, if you build your argument on a point lacking logic, you can build any fantasy.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:27 pm to
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Yes, if you build your argument on a point lacking logic, you can build any fantasy.

As you are.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:27 pm to
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Of course they are. Sorry.

Based on what, exactly?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:28 pm to
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As you are.

No. Me saying judicial rulings are binding and precedential and not evidence of fraud is stating a fact that reflects reality.

You're trying to argue the opposite, which does not.
Posted by AGGIES
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:30 pm to
Should’ve used seashells
Posted by lotik
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:31 pm to
what if man... what if

never evidence, just more frickin what ifs.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:32 pm to
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Just because you disagree
The facts in those circumstances were not in dispute. The fact is the undisputed actions were indisputably unconstitutional. The courts refused to act. Their job is to uphold the constitution. They were negligent. Antithetical claims are not "opinions". They are fruad.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
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Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:34 pm to
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actual evidence

Simple Solutions to Complex Probs = except when you have to propose a complex solution to 'explain away' an evident truth that you don't want to admit.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:34 pm to
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The facts in those circumstances were not in dispute.


The law was the problem more than the facts.

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The courts refused to act. Their job is to uphold the constitution. They were negligent. Antithetical claims are not "opinions". They are fruad.

No this is just a bunch of sore loser-based opinions b/c your team lost.

You've yet to explain how legal rulings made legally and creating precedential rulings within the law are fraud.

All you've done is say you disagree with the rulings and project that they were illegitimate based on your disagreement.
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 4:35 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:39 pm to
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You've yet to explain how legal rulings made legally and creating precedential rulings within the law are fraud.
They knowingly enabled overtly unconstitutional conduct
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:41 pm to
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They knowingly enabled overtly unconstitutional conduct


You're only making your evidentiary burden more onerous creating another layer to the conspiracy theory
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:42 pm to
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The law was the problem more than the facts.
The law was not the problem. The courts were the problem. Hell dude, in GA the courts even acknowledged that, albeit far too late for any reasonable remedy.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:43 pm to
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Hell dude, in GA the courts even acknowledged that, albeit far too late for any reasonable remedy.

Hindsight bias fallacy
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:43 pm to
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You're only making your evidentiary burden more onerous creating another layer to the conspiracy theory
No. Again, the FACTS cited are not in dispute.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:48 pm to
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Hindsight bias fallacy
You evidently don't know what the term "fallacy of hindsight," actually references. Here's a hint. Contemporaneous and consistently raised observations do not become "fallacy of hindsight" when noted later in a continuum.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:50 pm to
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Again, the FACTS cited are not in dispute.

Yes. The law is, and it wasn't on your team's side.
Posted by Froman
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:50 pm to
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Is there anyone who actually believes that it wasn’t rigged?


Everyone who’s not a fricking idiot believes it wasn’t rigged.
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 4:51 pm
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:51 pm to
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Biden was more unpopular...in the future. The other conditions weren't present in 2024 and the DEMs were routed. Your point?


George bush was mid 20s Gallup approval in October 2008.

My point is that the president after and 2nd before had worse approval ratings than what you said was “one of the most unpopular administrations ever”.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:52 pm to
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You evidently don't know what the term "fallacy of hindsight," actually references. Here's a hint. Contemporaneous and consistently raised observations do not become "fallacy of hindsight" when noted later in a continuum.

When you're dealing with an evaluation of the time in question, trying to give a legal analysis, you are bound by the rulings of the time being analyzed.

Otherwise Louisiana could prosecute a lot of people for abortions that happened until June 2022/Dobbs
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:54 pm to
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what if man... what if

never evidence, just more frickin what ifs.

Nice non answer to a thoughtful response. I think this shows you are unserious.
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