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re: Newt: an absolutely rigged election in 2020
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:52 pm to Pandy Fackler
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:52 pm to Pandy Fackler
quote:LINK?
I do know this. President Trump's hand picked and personally vetted United States Attorney General, as well as his hand picked and personally vetted Director of the FBI, ... isn't investigating this "crime of the century"
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:56 pm to YumYum Sauce
There are 242 million eligible voters during the 2020 election. 158 million showed up. That still left 84 million that didn't vote.
Biden: 81,283,501
Trump: 74,223,975
You're a fricking retard.
Biden: 81,283,501
Trump: 74,223,975
You're a fricking retard.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:59 pm to Padme
quote:
Is there anyone who actually believes that it wasn’t rigged?
Donald Trump.
Otherwise, where are all the indictments?
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:04 pm to prouddawg
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How can anyone say we don’t need trials, executions and a governmental reset?
We need TRIBUNALS, PUBLIC executions and a governmental reset?
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
SlowFlowProlocution…
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:08 pm to lotik
Do you find it interesting the most popular and voted for President in history won the fewest counties by any winner ever?
Also, is it curious to you at all that he won 1 out of 20ish bellwethers? The most voted for President in history losing almost every bellwether?
Let’s start here.
Also, is it curious to you at all that he won 1 out of 20ish bellwethers? The most voted for President in history losing almost every bellwether?
Let’s start here.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:09 pm to Padme
So glad Trump never bent the knee and agreed with the many POS liberal reporters who were trying to coax him into admitting that the election wasn't rigged (especially that 60 minutes whore Leslie Stahl)
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:10 pm to blueboxer1119
This is not how things work, my brother. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".
What you have there is called a conspiracy theory.
What you have there is called a conspiracy theory.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:11 pm to Padme
Lack of meaningful signature verification, mail ballots being unidentifiable and provable fraudulent or legitimate, mail voting being pushed by the entirety of the left then stonewalling investigation, and substantial statistical anomalies.
The likelihood of all of these being true, which they are, and there NOT being fraud…is zero.
Because government entities or the courts would not allow investigation does not mean there was not fraud or at least extreme negligence favorable to one side.
The likelihood of all of these being true, which they are, and there NOT being fraud…is zero.
Because government entities or the courts would not allow investigation does not mean there was not fraud or at least extreme negligence favorable to one side.
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:SFP, the problem you have in attempting that argument is the system was OVERTLY corrupt.
Yes, because that's how you support arguments/stances.
Instead of evidence
E.g., SCOTUS dropped Alito's concerns about PA breaches, then absurdly claimed states have no standing in citing Constitutional breaches in other states' election proceedings which affected election outcome. There was no excuse or reasonable justification for that crap.
WI Supreme Court ruling atop known illegal operations in Dane/Milwaukie Co's was an obscenity. There was no excuse or reasonable justification for that crap.
The GA SOS acted unconstitutionally to change GA election law, yet courts refused suits based on erroneous lack of standing findings (reversed 3-4yrs later). There was no excuse or reasonable justification for that crap.
DVS ran an unmonitored potential counterfeit vote operation in Fulton Co days before the election. It was never investigated. DVS systems were connected to the internet despite lies refuting the fact. There was no excuse or reasonable justification for that crap.
For you, or anyone, to claim "lack of evidence" is audacious, and frankly, as you know better, there is no excuse or reasonable justification for that crap. .
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:13 pm to blueboxer1119
quote:
Do you find it interesting the most popular and voted for President in history won the fewest counties by any winner ever?
Also, is it curious to you at all that he won 1 out of 20ish bellwethers? The most voted for President in history losing almost every bellwether?
Let’s start here.
The 2020 election was clearly an outlier, for various reasons. We were in the middle of a worldwide pandemic for one. We were coming off one of the most unpopular administrations ever, secondly.
That's not evidence of fraud. It doesn't exclude fraud occurring on some mass scale, either, but it's certainly not evidence of fraud.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
as I told MAGA in real time, they should have devoted resources to using this to get Trump votes and not the ground game Trump was so focused on in 2020. It didn't have to go one way.
What you are missing is that Trump did not have the organization to do that. At that time he was silently opposed by a large faction of the Republican Party. In fact, some of the states in which the rules were changed were run by Republicans. It wasn’t just Democrats opposing him; it was the Deep State.
My guess is that Trump was the first President audacious enough to try to displace a large portion of the Deep State at the trough of federal grifting. Trump’s supporters think he is against all of that, but the evidence is overwhelming that the Trump family is just a more talented Biden family and without the flagrant crackhead. This is why Trump has found such opposition among his own party.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:17 pm to G2160
quote:
The likelihood of all of these being true, which they are, and there NOT being fraud…is zero.
Because government entities or the courts would not allow investigation does not mean there was not fraud or at least extreme negligence favorable to one side.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
We were coming off one of the most unpopular administrations ever, secondly.
Gallup approval ratings:
Trump October 2020 46%
Biden October 2024 41%
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:22 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
For you, or anyone, to claim "lack of evidence" is audacious,
You cited legal actions (based on judicial rulings you disagree with) that aren't evidence of fraud or impropriety; just evidence of rulings going against your team.
and this
quote:
DVS ran an unmonitored potential counterfeit vote operation in Fulton Co days before the election. It was never investigated. DVS systems were connected to the internet despite lies refuting the fact. There was no excuse or reasonable justification for that crap.
Which isn't evidence of fraud, either. You can jump from this kernel of truth to dot connecting, sure, but that's not evidence, either.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Again, actions of the courts ignoring blatant unconstitutional and/or unlawful measures affecting the election is itself fraudulent. Given that fact, the rest of your arguments are not even relevant.
That's not evidence of fraud. It doesn't exclude fraud occurring on some mass scale, either, but it's certainly not evidence of fraud.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:quote:If that vote was ruled legal, then how is it fraud?
Any harvested ballot filled out post Election Day is going to not show up as fraud in any audit.
this is why people hate lawyers.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:25 pm to G2160
quote:
Gallup approval ratings:
Trump October 2020 46%
Biden October 2024 41%
Biden was more unpopular...in the future. The other conditions weren't present in 2024 and the DEMs were routed. Your point?
Biden was bad. Water is wet.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Of course they are. Sorry.
You cited legal actions (based on judicial rulings you disagree with) that aren't evidence of fraud
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:26 pm to lotik
quote:
You mean to tell me that enough voter fraud went on to steal the election in 2020, but where are the facts that support this? Where are the court cases? Where are the convictions?
Let me guess. Courts are corrupt. The deep state. Rainbows and unicorns.
I don’t know if it was enough. My guess is that it was. Vote harvesting has to be fought with pre-existing rules, which were extant until they were peeled back - sometimes blatantly illegally - supposedly due to covid necessity. Once the harvesting occurs, in accordance with the new rules, how can you prove it?
Example: Let’s say an inner city precinct, that has averaged 45% participation, and has a max case of 60%, ends up with 95% this time. How do you prove it? You can’t. The best you could do is bring voter X to court and dispose him to find that he didn’t vote even though the rolls show he did. That gets you nowhere. It’s evidence that someone cheated but who? And for whom?
And even if you brought several hundred of those forward, the courts would say it wasn’t material, because you lost by more than that. And to affect the election, you would have had to get all of this done in a few weeks. Impossible!
One other thing. How many people whose votes were stolen in that inner city precinct would take time to go to court for free and testify? And if you paid them, then the joke would be that you were bribing them.
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