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re: Newt: an absolutely rigged election in 2020

Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:05 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452739 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:05 am to
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Instead you are ducking behind a court's unrelated finding regarding the plaintiff's filing.


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We conclude the challenge to indefinitely confined voter ballots is without merit


I don't know how that's unrelated to the question being asked
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
6356 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:05 am to
They know it was rigged. Their go to is "prove it". It is disgusting that they know it was rigged, and act so smug. But, they are liberals....hate god, family, country, and are mentally unstable. It is what it is.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452739 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:06 am to
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Their go to is "prove it". It is disgusting



Yes, having evidence for claims/arguments in the age of conspiracy theory, to counter claims by the conspiracy theory folks, is "disgusting".

Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
2459 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:19 am to
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What did Hunter's laptop have to do with Biden's re-election campaign? We already knew Hunter was a drug-addicted degen. We all knew that long before we had confirmation with the laptop.


Another poster already proved the laptop had an impact on voters. Your comment above chooses to ignore that the laptop also contained emails proving Hunter’s influence peddling, but of course that doesn’t fit your narrative.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452739 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:23 am to
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Another poster already proved the laptop had an impact on voters.

He did not. Keep reading.

Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
1265 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:25 am to
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What if I told you the DEMs did about as well in 2024 as 2020, outside of the most DEM-left areas?


I would say its much easier to harvest votes in urban centers (Dem-Left) than it is in rural areas (Center Right), so I wouldn't expect to to change much
Y-O-Y

Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25486 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:26 am to
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This. Anyone who can't understand this is slow.


Don't confuse not understanding it with refusing to admit it.

Nobody really believes that people wearing masks and gloves taking pictures of piles of ballots being put into an unmonitored drop box is normal. Nobody's that fricking stupid, nor are they stupid enough to claim that the guy's grandma demanded proof of her ballot being delivered and it all has an innocent explanation. We all know what was going on. Some will admit it, some won't.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131694 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:33 am to
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I don't know how that's unrelated to the question being asked
The WI law was crystal clear. The Dane/Milwaukee breaches of it were both clear AND court recognized. The sole reason courts refused to intercede in spring of 2020 on behalf of the GOP is because, prior to the election, they said the GOP could not demonstrate harm.

The finding against the GOP was not a comment on the LAW, it was a comment on the technical merits of the case. The same is true of the finding you're addressing.

You know that.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43978 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:35 am to
he only gets technical and persnikety about the law when it suits him.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131694 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:37 am to
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he only gets technical and persnikety about the law when it suits him.
I couldn't care less about him getting "technical and persnikety about the law." But in this case he's refusing to address the law, just as the courts did.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43978 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:44 am to
that's my point. you'll get a legal colonoscopy on birthright citizenship one day, and an impossibly obtuse, emotional word pasta over the 2020 election the next.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17871 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:51 am to
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Heard him being interviewed by Halperin the other day, and Charlie Kirk just now, promoting his book about Trumps influence. He just said about 3 times that the 2020 election was rigged. This can’t be though, our resident genius assured me that the 2020 election was legit. Does Newt need to go to Lake Charles law school?

Is there anyone who actually believes that it wasn’t rigged? Or do they just keep up the lie, for… well I don’t know what for
there's no evidence of it, so it can't be investigated. Duh.
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he only gets technical and persnikety about the law when it suits him.
you just described the entirety of our judicial system.

"words matter.... when I like what they say"
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 8:53 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46335 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:54 am to
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This is much more valuable than actual evidence, in your eyes

I get so tired of your pounding the table about 'evidence' - you have never presented a shred of "evidence" to support your pomposity here.
I don't care what kind of degree or experience you have - or don't have - but this is a message board where the ONLY 'coin of the realm' is the logic of what you present - and how it compares with the presumed 'public knowledge' based on more than casual attention to the real news. Where 'real' means more than just the latest talking points from the mainstream media or political campaign material.

For instance - on this board you have presented ZERO 'evidence' that the 2020 election was accurately decided . (not to be confused with 'official'=== Nobody is claiming that the 'powers that be' declared Biden to be POTUS even tho he actually received less electoral votes.

The next time you use "evidence" as your primary verbal weapon in any discussion here - you are duty bound to present your OWN "evidence" that supports your opinion.

OH - and it cannot be that "absence of evidence to the contrary" is an acceptable substitute. Because that is the underlying assumption of all the people you assail with YOUR 'lack of evidence' bullshite.

This is a discussion board - it only rewards simple truths, cogent observations, sane logic, and personal integrity.

YOU are not the JUDGE here, as much as that seems to be your personal opinion of your position - you are just another product of keyboard strokes, and the only thing that distinguishes your input from others is the logic and apparent truths that exist in the public domain.

Put up or shut up about 'evidence'
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283534 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:01 am to
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How does he say the election was rigged this time? He's said it's been rigged by the media before


There were shenanigans. mp doubt
Posted by Nonetheless
MAGA
Member since Jan 2012
33986 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:08 am to
It is so infuriating that people still believe Joe Biden got 81 million votes
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452739 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:48 am to
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I would say its much easier to harvest votes in urban centers (Dem-Left) than it is in rural areas (Center Right), so I wouldn't expect to to change much

What? I said the DEMs losses were in the areas "much easier to harvest votes".
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452739 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:50 am to
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It is so infuriating that people still believe Joe Biden got 81 million votes


Again, my point above

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What if I told you the DEMs did about as well in 2024 as 2020, outside of the most DEM-left areas?


The primary gap in the total votes were in areas like New York, California, Illinois, Colorado, etc. Blue areas.



That's about 2/3 of the difference in the Biden vote totals in 2020.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452739 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:51 am to
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you'll get a legal colonoscopy on birthright citizenship one day, and an impossibly obtuse, emotional word pasta over the 2020 election the next.

2 different discussions/cases get 2 different responses.

News at 11
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131694 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:52 am to
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your pomposity her
Pomposity isn't a problem. Hell, I deal with that all the time. Maybe it's less personally off putting because it's a quality I can return in spades.

The problem is when folks get Decatur-ish, using foundational knowledge or education to argue against what they assuredly realize is truth. Contrarianism is one thing, duplicity is another entirely. The latter occurs when known facts are denied.

I could very easily convince many folks here that medical concepts I know to be false, are instead true. I'll never do that. Nor will I tolerate others doing it in their fields, pompous or not.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452739 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:53 am to
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For instance - on this board you have presented ZERO 'evidence' that the 2020 election was accurately decided .

That's not how burden of proof and evidence work, especially with this framing:

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(not to be confused with 'official'=== Nobody is claiming that the 'powers that be' declared Biden to be POTUS even tho he actually received less electoral votes.


So you ask me for evidence and then make it impossible for me to give evidence. #Logic

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