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New York on verge of tuition-free college for middle class.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 4/8/17 at 6:32 pm
New York will be the first state in the nation to make tuition free at both two- and four-year public colleges for residents who earn up to a specific income cap, which will be phased in over the first three years.
Starting this fall, students who attend a State University of New York or City University of New York school will be eligible for the Excelsior Scholarship if their families earn no more than $100,000 a year. The income cap will lift to $110,000 next year and will reach $125,000 in 2019.
Those eligible will pay nothing for tuition, which costs $6,470 annually at four-year schools and about $4,350 a year at community colleges. But they will still be on the hook for the cost of fees and room and board if they live on campus. Those other expenses can add up to $14,000 a year.
After they graduate, students who receive the scholarship must live and work in New York for the same number of years they received funding. If they leave the state, their scholarship will be converted into a loan. This requirement was not included in the governor's initial proposal, which he announced in January.
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Starting this fall, students who attend a State University of New York or City University of New York school will be eligible for the Excelsior Scholarship if their families earn no more than $100,000 a year. The income cap will lift to $110,000 next year and will reach $125,000 in 2019.
Those eligible will pay nothing for tuition, which costs $6,470 annually at four-year schools and about $4,350 a year at community colleges. But they will still be on the hook for the cost of fees and room and board if they live on campus. Those other expenses can add up to $14,000 a year.
After they graduate, students who receive the scholarship must live and work in New York for the same number of years they received funding. If they leave the state, their scholarship will be converted into a loan. This requirement was not included in the governor's initial proposal, which he announced in January.
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Posted on 4/8/17 at 6:33 pm to LSU1NSEC
Nothing is "free". Upper class folk will pay for this benefit and see none of it.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 6:33 pm to LSU1NSEC
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New York will be the first state in the nation to make tuition free at both two- and four-year public colleges for residents who earn up to a specific income cap, which will be phased in over the first three years.
Meh if you arent a dumbass TOPS made louisiana schools free or hell even got a check from the state on top of tuition.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 6:34 pm to LSU1NSEC
More power to them. I'm all for states going that route if they so choose.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 6:34 pm to LSU1NSEC
So poor households, which by and large do not send kids to college, will be paying taxes so middle class and upper middle class kids can go to college for free.
Stupid idea.
BTW- a household earning 100k a year has no business getting funds for college tuition.
Stupid idea.
BTW- a household earning 100k a year has no business getting funds for college tuition.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 6:36 pm to LSU1NSEC
quote:Interested in seeing the statistics of families making less than $100K in NY State who actually have kids going to university. It's probably not that large a number, all things considered.
New York will be the first state in the nation to make tuition free at both two- and four-year public colleges for residents who earn up to a specific income cap, which will be phased in over the first three years.
Starting this fall, students who attend a State University of New York or City University of New York school will be eligible for the Excelsior Scholarship if their families earn no more than $100,000 a year. The income cap will lift to $110,000 next year and will reach $125,000 in 2019.
Those eligible will pay nothing for tuition, which costs $6,470 annually at four-year schools and about $4,350 a year at community colleges. But they will still be on the hook for the cost of fees and room and board if they live on campus. Those other expenses can add up to $14,000 a year.
After they graduate, students who receive the scholarship must live and work in New York for the same number of years they received funding. If they leave the state, their scholarship will be converted into a loan. This requirement was not included in the governor's initial proposal, which he announced in January.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 6:36 pm to NIH
quote:So will poor people.
Upper class folk will pay for this benefit and see none of it.
The poor, for reasons other than money, do not for the most part send their kids to school.
non partisan and government reports that run studies on policies like this regularly find that the benefit it gives to low income families is negligible.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 6:40 pm to Navytiger74
quote:It's a tiny number.
Interested in seeing the statistics of families making less than $100K in NY State who actually have kids going to university. It's probably not that large a number, all things considered.
Also, according to WAPO, this plan LEAST benefits the people who already receive the most aid, aka the poor.
Excerpt from WAPO article:
quote:
. But buried in the fine print of the $163 million plan are significant benefits to upper-middle-income families — those making up to $125,000 per year — while the plan does nothing for low-income students, for whom existing grant aid already covers tuition.
Sanders and Clinton proposed eliminating tuition while letting students keep their existing grant aid, such as the Pell grants received by low-income students. But Cuomo has proposed only covering the difference between tuition and students’ existing aid, meaning that those who get the most aid benefit the least from the proposal.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 6:44 pm to LSU1NSEC
This is what's caused tuition rates to skyrocket along with Pell grants
As a teacher I firmly believe not everyone needs or deserves to go to college.
As a teacher I firmly believe not everyone needs or deserves to go to college.
This post was edited on 4/8/17 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 4/8/17 at 6:44 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Adds up. $100K for a family was a joke in most places in NY when I was a student there over a decade ago. Let's not even talk about families from the City, Long Island, and the surrounding counties.
It's a tiny number.
Also, according to WAPO, this plan LEAST benefits the people who already receive the most aid, aka the poor.
Excerpt from WAPO article:
I can't imagine what poor looks like there now. I think the average NY police officer with about 5-8 years experience makes $110K.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 6:45 pm to LSU1NSEC
Middle class screwed again
Posted on 4/8/17 at 6:48 pm to LSU1NSEC
Income should only play a small part. It should be based on scores, GPA, etc.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 6:51 pm to LSU1NSEC
A step in the right direction.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 6:51 pm to sms151t
quote:As do I.
As a teacher I firmly believe not everyone needs or deserves to go to college.
College has become a daycare center rather than to prepare you for the real world.
Graduate school is the new college.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 6:52 pm to Scruffy
Somewhat related...but the biggest line of bullshite served up on here is that people are "bad test takers". Bad test takers just have lower IQs. I've never met someone that I would consider intelligent, who scored poorly on standardized tests.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 7:00 pm to NIH
That was a stupid post Test anxiety is real. I bet you also think Generalized or unspecified anxiety disorder is made up also.
This post was edited on 4/8/17 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 4/8/17 at 7:02 pm to sms151t
quote:
Test anxiety is real.
Hard things in life bring anxiety
Posted on 4/8/17 at 7:05 pm to NIH
quote:
I've never met someone that I would consider intelligent, who scored poorly on standardized tests.
I've been fortunate to receive scholarship and fellowship benefits because I score well on tests... perhaps even better than I should. Having said that, I've known numerous highly-intelligent people whose gifts are not captured by standardized test scores.
The real crime is that anyone with enough money can train themselves to get a high score. The tests are like anything else in life - if you practice enough and have the benefit of specialized coaching, you'll eventually do well.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 7:05 pm to NIH
You just disproved your own moronic post
Posted on 4/8/17 at 7:06 pm to Adam Banks
Same in Georgia. I didn't pay tuition with HOPE. Required getting a 3.0 in high school (lol) and not slacking in college
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