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re: New York Giving Away Food
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:39 am to mwade91383
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:39 am to mwade91383
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1.) The parents should be responsible for their own children
2.) Don't have children if you can't afford them
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Of those 2 options, which one is the kids fault?
The correct question is: of those two options, which one is MY RESPONSIBILITY?"
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Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:42 am to moneyg
You’ve done the mental jumping jacks necessary to convince yourself that withholding school lunch from poor hungry kids (none of which, is their fault) is part of a grand master plan of protecting those same kids.
You don’t even know which way is up anymore. You have no idea what is going on.
You don’t even know which way is up anymore. You have no idea what is going on.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:43 am to LSUSkip
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I really don't either. They have to be there. Schools are taxpayer funded, i just don't see a problem with it. Im sure that in some areas most kids get free or reduced lunch amyway.
Before they pay for school lunches how about they buy the needed supplies for the classrooms. And not have parents bring in all the stuff they need. My wife is a 5th grade teacher and the school policy is that the parents are supposed to bring in what amounts to about $75 worth of paper towels, pencils, paper, markers, glue and other crap. Most of the parents send it the stuff but some dont and if asked they say they dont have the money to but that stuff. And when they are saying that they are standing there with expensive weaves, nails, gigantic fake eyelashes and a $1000 telephone.
Those kids dont even need to be in school. They will never amount to anything but a parasite. They wont get jobs or become productive members of society.
Welfare and "free" stuff will be the end of this country.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:44 am to moneyg
I'm not sure what your solution is then. If you consider it abuse for parents to not pack their kids a lunch, does the state take custody of the kids? That's just feeding them free lunch with extra steps 
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:45 am to Smeg
That’s not the correct question and not what anyone is arguing against. Yes, parents should parent their kids, we all agree.
Why do you think it’s good policy to punish their kids when those parents fail? Might have to take a longer look in the mirror for that one.
Why do you think it’s good policy to punish their kids when those parents fail? Might have to take a longer look in the mirror for that one.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:48 am to Smeg
I have a real hard time saying feeding kids is a waste of tax money... Honestly providing them a good education and food during the day doesn't seem like a horrible idea.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:55 am to mwade91383
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You’ve done the mental jumping jacks necessary to convince yourself that withholding school lunch from poor hungry kids (none of which, is their fault) is part of a grand master plan of protecting those same kids.
When you are so soft that you can't demand that a parent feed their own children, you are worthless.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:57 am to mwade91383
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Why do you think it’s good policy to punish their kids when those parents fail? Might have to take a longer look in the mirror for that one.
I believe the fundamental underlying issue here is that you don't understand the concept of responsibility or who bears it. Am I actively "punishing" someone by not giving them a dollar from my pocket? By that logic, you are punishing every single hungry child on the planet if you are spending any of your disposable income on yourself. You think that video game you paid for is more important than a starving child somewhere? How selfish of you.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:57 am to moneyg
You think the school lunch issue can only be solved by the government seizing kids.
Maybe sleep on that take for a day or two and circle back.
Maybe sleep on that take for a day or two and circle back.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:58 am to Ingeniero
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I'm not sure what your solution is then
Parents feed their kids.
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If you consider it abuse for parents to not pack their kids a lunch, doe
And, here we go again. Do you not think it's abuse for a parent to not feed their own children? What fricking world do you people live in? FFS, you are a terrible person.
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s the state take custody of the kids? That's just feeding them free lunch with extra steps
It's not a joke you piece of shite. I'd say it's absolutely imperative that the expectation be set that parent need to feed their kids. And, if they are starving, we need to put them in an environment where they can be fed.
People like you who are willing to allow a kid to stay in that environment truly are heartless.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:58 am to Smeg
No I totally understand the responsibility component. I’m a parent myself, know it quite well. We’re on the same page here for the most part.
I just don’t think paying for school lunches is a big problem, esp in the grande scheme of things. It’s really not that big a deal.
But I understand why you keep going back to some version of a slippery slope fallacy. If I had to justify “starving a kid is actually a good thing” I’d overthink the shite out of it too.
I just don’t think paying for school lunches is a big problem, esp in the grande scheme of things. It’s really not that big a deal.
But I understand why you keep going back to some version of a slippery slope fallacy. If I had to justify “starving a kid is actually a good thing” I’d overthink the shite out of it too.
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 10:06 am
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:01 am to mwade91383
That’s not an argument, it’s emotional manipulation. are you a woman?
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:05 am to moneyg
You're lashing out and making hysterical posts. My argument is that subsidized school lunch for all kids would lead to better outcomes. I don't mind my taxes being used to feed kids at school that they're required to attend, and make it a healthy lunch. That solves the issue of kids eating slop and poorer kids going hungry.
Yes, parents should take care of their kids and feed them properly. But if you're genuinely arguing that the government should take custody of kids whose parents don't send them school lunches, that's retarded.
Yes, parents should take care of their kids and feed them properly. But if you're genuinely arguing that the government should take custody of kids whose parents don't send them school lunches, that's retarded.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:05 am to moneyg
Now compare the two and tell me which is more feasible
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:08 am to Riverside
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And it’s not free! Someone is paying for the food through taxes!!!
This program could be funded nationwide by cutting the benefits of those receiving Social Security to 10% of their current benefits, that way it's fair to everyone
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:10 am to mwade91383
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You think the school lunch issue can only be solved by the government seizing kids
We don’t have a school lunch issue.
We have a parenting issue and it is absolutely worse because of people like you who have removed personal responsibility from society.
And you are doing it again.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:11 am to BugAC
Children are not the same as adult wild animals. Children must be taken care of and do not have the ability to feed themselves properly on their own. As they get older, they can start preparing meals for themselves, but they still must be provided for. Very poor comparison.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:14 am to BlueFalcon
Would be politically really unpopular but would probably help.
If we don’t start reverse engineering our society to make it easier for younger people (education, healthcare, housing, raising kids) and stop continuing to give handouts to older people out society is going to collapse anyway.
People not having kids anymore is a huge problem that nobody wants to get serious about. Young men are also particularly vulnerable and we’re starting to see real symptoms.
If we don’t start reverse engineering our society to make it easier for younger people (education, healthcare, housing, raising kids) and stop continuing to give handouts to older people out society is going to collapse anyway.
People not having kids anymore is a huge problem that nobody wants to get serious about. Young men are also particularly vulnerable and we’re starting to see real symptoms.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:17 am to Ingeniero
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My argument is that subsidized school lunch for all kids would lead to better outcomes.
Better outcomes than what?
I completely disagree that it leads to better outcomes than parents being held responsible. Your “better outcomes” have already excluded that possibility and you are just weighing universal lunch compared to means tested lunch.
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Yes, parents should take care of their kids and feed them properly. But if you're genuinely arguing that the government should take custody of kids whose parents don't send them school lunches, that's retarded.
So to be clear, you believe a child that is not fed by their parents should remain in their care? You are ok with that?
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:19 am to moneyg
We can argue about all the details, but the only thing I really can’t get past is a kid ultimately paying the price. Which in this context is not having access to a meal, despite whatever is or isn’t happening at home.
Manufacture a solution that doesn’t include that and we probably have a middle ground we can agree on.
Manufacture a solution that doesn’t include that and we probably have a middle ground we can agree on.
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 10:20 am
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