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re: New York Area Fire Commissioners Make History, Call for New 9/11 Investigation
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:27 pm to Dale51
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:27 pm to Dale51
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Same way a politician makes money from a movement. Speaking engagements, funding to their offices needed from the extra work, etc.
Maybe but I'm not seeing this angle
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Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:28 pm to Wtodd
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You think Silverstein was giving an order, ON-CAMERA, to use the "secret explosives"???
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Not sure if serious but this interview was AFTER 9/11
Agreed, obviously.
SO you think the building owner, with all that time to reflect post-9/11, being interviewed..... you think he decided to ON-CAMERA reveal the "secret plot" involving the "Government-planted explosives"?
Serious question!!
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:31 pm to bountyhunter
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It helps identify the whack jobs on this site.
9/11 Truthers
Gun-control advocates
Anti-vaxers
Hierarchy of ignorance, stupidity, and dishonesty.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:32 pm to JPinLondon
TBH I don't know what he meant and I first heard this video 15+ years ago BUT if there was some 'secret plan' this was just a slip of the lip and he's never made any clarifications to this statement.
I'm 99% sure he didn't mean pull the firefighters out bc he would have said exactly that, not some 'pull it' phrase.....and he said 'it', not 'them'.
I'm 99% sure he didn't mean pull the firefighters out bc he would have said exactly that, not some 'pull it' phrase.....and he said 'it', not 'them'.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:38 pm to CarRamrod
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do yall even torsional local buckling, bro?
Go on..
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:42 pm to Wtodd
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So if someone questions any "official story" they're a conspiracy theorist?
No. Not at all. The "conspiracy" part is when the official story is not countered by any evidence to indicate the story is false.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:44 pm to Dale51
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The "conspiracy" part is when the official story is not countered by any evidence to indicate the story is false
And in almost every instance, the 1st conspiracy theory is the official story.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:47 pm to Wtodd
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I'm 99% sure he didn't mean pull the firefighters out bc he would have said exactly that, not some 'pull it' phrase.....and he said 'it', not 'them'.
"It"...the operation to continue the effort.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:47 pm to dstone12
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I would just like to go on record here on Page 1, that I do think passenger planes could actually take buildings down
Of course they could. And they did
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:49 pm to Wtodd
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And in almost every instance, the 1st conspiracy theory is the official story.
Non Sequitur.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:51 pm to Wtodd
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OK Einstein then what did he mean by 'pull it'? What could they actually 'pull'?
You're insinuating that Silverstein admitted on television that he blew up his own building. And the billionaire couldn't pay off the editors to scrub the 'pull it' from the tape? Good god you're retarded. And it doesn't even make sense in context... "We've had such a terrible loss of life...let's go ahead and blow up the building"
God damn you have the IQ of a 9 year old
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:54 pm to Dale51
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"It"...the operation to continue the effort.
I don't agree.....if you or I or any number of other people would have been referring to pulling firefighters out of a building, that's what we say, not "pull it"...doesn't make sense to me.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:57 pm to Wtodd
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I don't agree.....if you or I or any number of other people would have been referring to pulling firefighters out of a building, that's what we say, not "pull it"...doesn't make sense to me.
In context it makes perfect sense, retard. It's clear that it was a split second decision, something that wasn't preplanned. Again, how does "We've had a terrible loss of life...let's blow up the building" make sense??
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:00 pm to cajunangelle
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I am open minded. I always wondered if the planes themselves had bombs on board in explanation?
I did a paper on this in college 17 years ago. The information was widely available then, and widely available now. There were no explosives in the buildings. The planes were nearly completely full of jet fuel. Burning jet fuel for 40 minutes on steel members will, unequivocally, cause structural failure.
The WTC did not have interior supports, outside of a couple elevator shafts. It's structural support came from the outside steel members. It was designed to fall, exactly the way it did. To pancake floor after floor on top of each other, in the event of something as unthinkable as a plane crashing into the towers.
Again, this information was available before, and after 9/11. Modern Marvels on History channel did a special on the design of the WTC in 1999 or 98 i think.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:17 pm to CarRamrod
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do yall even torsional local buckling, bro?
I do, but I don't think that happens until the horizontal beams lose their strength and the vertical beams are effectively lengthened.
I also think that could undermine the almost completely vertical pancaking that occurred.
Any of these, though, should be more than sufficient to demonstrate that material failure due to heat was the failure mechanism.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:18 pm to BugAC
I remember the custodians at the first World Trade Center that got hit said the basement blew up six seconds before they felt they felt the impact at the top of the building.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:30 pm to Byrdybyrd05
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I remember the custodians at the first World Trade Center that got hit said the basement blew up six seconds before they felt they felt the impact at the top of the building.
Uh Huh..
They were connected by a tunnel. Sound travels.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:34 pm to cajunangelle
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nearly 18 years after the horrific attacks that traumatized a nation
Should I feel bad because I wasn't traumatized?
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:47 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
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I had the opportunity to visit NASDAQ less than a year after 9/11. Our security guide was working when it all went down. His firsthand account was one of the most solemn things I’ve ever heard. He said that they found a row of passengers on top of their building. Between his story and looking down into the hole, seeing the subway tracks still there... I’ll never forget it.
huh???
NASDAQ was immediately across the street from WTC. It’s about 52 stories tall.
The intent was to discredit the idea that planes didn’t hit the towers.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:51 pm to cajunangelle
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