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re: New York Area Fire Commissioners Make History, Call for New 9/11 Investigation

Posted on 7/31/19 at 10:58 am to
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 10:58 am to
I'm not defending the decision or presenting it as fact, I'm just saying it's not hard to believe.

Blow a destroyed and dangerous building in a controlled demo and some first responders who know what they signed up for die VS a completely uncontrolled building collapse in the middle of NYC? You can't see that conversation happening behind the scenes somewhere?
Posted by scottfruget
Member since Nov 2010
3392 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 11:02 am to
That lone gunman clip was eerily spot on
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 11:07 am to
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the Franklin Square and Munson Fire District, which oversees a volunteer fire department serving a hamlet of 30,000 residents


Yeah....... I'm gonna say these guys are neither experts on structural matters nor are they experts on explosions or forensic examinations.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68474 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 11:13 am to
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That lone gunman clip was eerily spot on

Wasn't it tho
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 11:38 am to
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That other building that fell perfectly onto itself,


That didn't happen.


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Something went on with that one.


Maybe the 20 story structural gap created by the falling debris had something to do with it?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 11:45 am to
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Maybe this is 18 years of built up anger?



Anger directed at who?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 11:45 am to
Tfw you realize the news broke the story about the other buildings before it happened
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68474 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 11:46 am to
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Maybe the 20 story structural gap created by the falling debris had something to do with it?

Are there pics that show this gap?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 11:46 am to
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Why would the fire commissioners do this if they didn't at least have some evidence?

Same reason politicians do things like that. Money.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 11:48 am to
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serving a hamlet of 30,000 residents just outside of Queens, New York, became the first legislative body in the country to officially support a new investigation into the events of 9/11.


Medium sized town can demand such a thing and taxpayer money will be thrown at them??
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 11:50 am to
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isn't it logical that they would also be willing to plant some sort of explosive devices for maximum effect and a fail safe plan?


Not at all logical.
How was this planting of explosives accomplished?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 11:54 am to
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Jet fuel wouldn’t make the steel beams slice in half and a building fall vertically demolition style.


Thats called gravity.

Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68474 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 11:55 am to
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Same reason politicians do things like that. Money.

Go on......
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 11:58 am to

The horizontal members are only as strong as the rivets that connect them to the vertical members.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:01 pm to
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The official excuse for the collapse of Bldg #7 us bull shite and anybody that believe that bullshat makes me question their intelligence.


What conclusions that were presented do you find to be false?
Can you present your alternative hypothesis and the evidence to support it?
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7858 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:03 pm to
The belief in the nonsense of explosives used to take down the World Trade Center has two consequences:

1) it dishonors the memory of nearly three thousand of our fellow MURDERED Americans, many of whom had their skin burning as they jumped to their deaths

2) it elevates the status of 19 murderous, religious zealots, and the terrorist network that funded and trained them, and the murderous leader who planned it

You people who believe this are, in fact, guilty of the above acts, and you should be ashamed of yourselves! You are despicable.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
25404 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:04 pm to
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The horizontal members are only as strong as the rivets that connect them to the vertical members.


Not sure which actually failed, but shear or tension would have caused failure long before compression/buckling.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50497 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:06 pm to
Racism can't melt steel beams!!!
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58310 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:07 pm to
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have very little knowledge about 911 truthers accept from my brilliant son
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he swears that planes did crash as we all saw. But there was also explosives, that the planes impact would not have brought down the towers.
your son doesnt sound so brilliant. It is amazing the towers didnt tip over from the impact of the planes that high up. Let me crow hop punch you in the face and see if you dont fall down.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125649 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:08 pm to
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Can you present your alternative hypothesis and the evidence to support it?


No conspiracy theorist in the history of ever has ever done so.
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