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re: New term for “homeless” is “feral humans”

Posted on 7/31/26 at 10:26 am to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/31/26 at 10:26 am to
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The best way to fix the homeless problem would be to build large scale secure hospitals to treat the mental health issues and rehab. Anyone who wont go to rehab should be involuntary held and forced through rehab. If they return to drugs they should be kept in a secure facility indefinitely.



This sounds a lot like institutions. It appears that our government has embraced neoliberalism and privatization too much to ever backslide into operating institutions again.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 7/31/26 at 10:29 am to
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You've already told us you're the sheltered, never had to deal with real problems that someone else couldn't solve for you type. Your opinion on the matter is duly noted.


You added this while I was replying.

Anyway, you are an ignorant and rude female. Attacking instead of discussing.

I take that to show that you, like many of your ilk, have no ideas or solutions... just the feral instinct to lash out and blame others.

Excellent engagement!



Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39202 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 10:31 am to
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I would prefer if you stopped looking at me.


Literally all you have to do is say “I was wrong” but you can’t
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/31/26 at 10:33 am to
You have now moved from “the margins are by choice” to acknowledging that people in the midst of addiction or mental illness may be unable to choose wellbeing. Congratulations on understanding marginalization.

And Narcan, harm reduction and treatment are not mutually exclusive. Keeping someone alive today does not prevent treating them tomorrow. Your insistence that the only options are needles or indefinite coercion is not a serious policy suggestion.

Your suggestion of rounding people up and abandoning them somewhere sounds an awful lot like what is happening now, which is ironically what you're complaining about.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/31/26 at 10:35 am to
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never had to deal with real problems that someone else couldn't solve for you type


Like begging for online strangers to pay for your bike
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
62722 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 10:37 am to
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Anyway, you are an ignorant and rude female. Attacking instead of discussing.



You don't like looking in mirrors?

You only stopped talking bad about me to other posters when I called you out on it. You're not a nice person and you want me to continue treating you like you are one when you've been an a-hole to me since you started posting here. You're one of those "I get along better with men" types. Total pick-me.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
92398 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 10:40 am to
Oh man look at the Alpha woman get her tough bitch act on.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/31/26 at 10:42 am to
In my youth the names used to describe the "homeless" were derelict, bum, and neer do wells.

Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 7/31/26 at 10:43 am to
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You have now moved from “the margins are by choice” to acknowledging that people in the midst of addiction or mental illness may be unable to choose wellbeing. Congratulations on understanding marginalization


No one "marginalized" them. That's the distinction.

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And Narcan, harm reduction and treatment are not mutually exclusive. Keeping someone alive today does not prevent treating them tomorrow. Your insistence that the only options are needles or indefinite coercion is not a serious policy suggestion.


Yet, you offer no third idea. None of you ever do. There's the harm reduction camp and the involuntary treatment camp. Neither is perfect, but one does at least proffer the possibility of a lasting solution.

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Your suggestion of rounding people up and abandoning them somewhere sounds an awful lot like what is happening now, which is ironically what you're complaining about.


Wrong.

A place set aside for people that wish not to engage in society is rather humane. It is not incarceration nor is it forced treatment. It is the freedom for them to live on their own terms while not causing issues for society. It IS the third way.

A third option I've given... while you're still stuck in binary option land.


Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
62722 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 10:43 am to
And my other hostile shadow troll stops by to lend his support to someone else who is hostile towards me. What a plot twist.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39202 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 10:44 am to
The only plot twist will be you actually admitting you were wrong
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
25076 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 10:47 am to
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You only stopped talking bad about me to other posters when I called you out on it.


Let's dissect this.

I was rude to you, or about you... you rightfully cried foul... and, as you admit, I stopped. Pretty much immediately in fact.

Tell me, where did I go wrong?

Was I supposed to keep being an arse towards you? I thought you didn't like that?

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You're not a nice person and you want me to continue treating you like you are


I don't much care how you treat me... unlike yourself, I didn’t wrap myself in perpetual offense and cry foul. You can post however you like- that's between you, Jesus, and the moderators.

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
62722 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 10:50 am to
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No one "marginalized" them. That's the distinction.

You went from saying people battling addiction and mental illness can't be expected to choose well-being to this.


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Yet, you offer no third idea. None of you ever do.
Are you suggesting that kidnapping people and abandoning them on some island in the middle of the ocean is your actual serious suggestion that you believe has a chance of solving problems instead of just creating more?

And you're calling this humane, correct?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
92398 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 10:54 am to
Hostile!
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
25076 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 10:55 am to
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Are you suggesting that kidnapping people and abandoning them on some island in the middle of the ocean


Where did I say this?

Biblically speaking, Cities of Refuge were outside of but near enough to population centers. Which is what I've advocated for in the past.

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And you're calling this humane, correct?


In contrast to incarceration or involuntary treatment, yes. Leaving them living on the streets as is, is no solution.

Again, I am waiting to hear your ideas.

All you've managed thus far is to fling insults and purposefully mistake my ideas.


Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
49419 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 10:57 am to
3-D printed home looks like a rest stop bathroom.

Neal Boortz nailed it best by calling them urban outdoorsmen.
This post was edited on 7/31/26 at 10:58 am
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36483 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 11:00 am to
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marginalized members of society.


Marginalized by who? Themselves?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
62722 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 11:03 am to
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Pretty much immediately in fact.

After months of shite talking me to other posters behind my back. You stopped when you realized that I could read your public posts. You only want to be rude if you can avoid accountability.
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Tell me, where did I go wrong?

It's wrong to badmouth people. You don't need another adult to teach you this. “I was an arse until you confronted me, and then I stopped” is not the character defense you seem to think it is.

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I don't much care how you treat me... unlike yourself, I didn’t wrap myself in perpetual offense and cry foul.
You just made a post dissecting my criticism of you, defending your conduct, and accusing me of being perpetually offended, before invoking Jesus and admins.

I'm not crying foul. I'm stating facts that reveal the kind of person you actually are.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36483 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 11:04 am to
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“Marginalized” describes how people like you rationalize keeping them there.


Who is keeping who where?

Billions of dollars is spent on this "problem" and it just gets worse.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
62722 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 11:04 am to
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Marginalized by who? Themselves?



The vast majority of posters in this thread, for starters.
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