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re: New shooting in Minnesota
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
Are you arguing that losing a finger isn’t serious bodily injury?
Or that some serious bodily injuries you just have to suck up and take it?
Or that some serious bodily injuries you just have to suck up and take it?
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:12 pm to the808bass
Resisting an officer during arrest puts them in danger. Especially in a situation like this, where there could be others around you who also want to commit violence against you. The situation needs to be resolved quickly. Police officers have to commit 6 officers to deal with this one douche who should have never been there. You can go willingly, or you can take your chances. He decided to take his chances while being armed.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
SlowFlowPro
"Fog of War"
- SFP 2026
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:13 pm to GhostofJackson
quote:
You can go willingly, or you can take your chances. He decided to take his chances while being armed.
None of this is a legal justification for the shooting.
It certainly qualifies the victim for a Darwin Award.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:14 pm to texag7
quote:Oh Brother .... trust me, he absolutely knows what those words mean. Else I'd not have asked.
He doesn’t know what any of those words mean.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:14 pm to the808bass
quote:
Are you arguing that losing a finger isn’t serious bodily injury?
I never made that argument, no.
It's not a simple binary scenario, though. That was my actual point. It isn't even an argument, as I'm explaining the law to you.
quote:
Or that some serious bodily injuries you just have to suck up and take it?
Not all would permit deadly force. Some SBIs in the wrong factual scenario otherwise would not permit deadly force. The factual analysis is based on the totality of each individual scenario.
it's not binary.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:15 pm to the808bass
quote:
None of this is a legal justification for the shooting.
It isn't but as SFP pointed out, "fog of war" happened and the officers thought there was a threat and relied on their training to deal with that threat. I know it's nuanced, and many people struggled with nuance today, but that is what happaned.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
SlowFlowPro
"Fog of War"
- SFP 2026
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:15 pm to the808bass
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Every video I’ve seen shows him making contact with the officers multiple times.
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills then
The only moment I see him get physical is after the ICE agent pushes that citizen in the gray jacket and orange backpack down. And all he does is try to push the agent back with his left hand. Then he gets maced and swarmed by multiple officers.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:So am I ..... and (hint) I'm the one asking.
He's a doctor (MD)
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:17 pm to KillerNut9
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And all he does is try to push the agent back with his left hand.
Yeah. So you saw the physical contact and decided that it wasn’t physical contact.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:17 pm to NC_Tigah
If someone said you didn't understand the words, I'd have made the same clarification.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
SlowFlowPro
"Fog of War"
- SFP 2026
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:18 pm to GhostofJackson
quote:
isn't but as SFP pointed out, "fog of war" happened
SFP is referring to unverified information. He’s not giving any police officer a benefit of the doubt.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
If someone said you didn't understand the words, I'd have made the same clarification.
Your going to have to clarify that.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:21 pm to the808bass
You think fog of war only applies to that? It's literally meant to mean attacking your own troops because you aren't sure if the other side of the fog is the enemy or not. You make ALL decisions based on the information you have and in life and death situations, you don't have time to wait. I feel like you are almost getting it, but you are waffling because you don't want to admit that sometimes officers have to act before they find out if the perp is going to hurt them.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:22 pm to GhostofJackson
You need to chill out.
You said SFP agreed. It’s not how he was using it.
You said SFP agreed. It’s not how he was using it.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:22 pm to KillerNut9
quote:
And all he does is try to push the agent back with his left hand.
Just pushing a federal agent, while armed with a loaded firearm.
You act like that is no big deal.
What the frick is wrong with you people?
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:23 pm to the808bass
quote:
You said SFP agreed.
Agreed to what? And chill out? Get a grip.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:24 pm to soonerinlOUisiana
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Regardless, the guy was armed at first contact, and was still fighting cops at the time shots were fired. Whether or not he was disarmed is of no consequence. He was reasonably believed to be a threat to the officers and the public, and use of deadly force was justified. Just like the butch-dyke in the Honda.
No arguments from me on any of this.
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