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re: New shooting in Minnesota
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:05 pm to GhostofJackson
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:05 pm to GhostofJackson
you need to watch this video. looks to me like started by a single agent and in the video no explanation why can be seen, imo
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
Except ICE doesn't need to wait for one of their own to die to react. There was reasonable belief that he was a threat. Who do you think he showed up to use that weapon against if he had to. I'll give you one chance to say the correct answer.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:06 pm to Thirteen
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nsfw LINK
So they pulled the gun from his back side. Ice agent just “sees” it and shoots.
Not sure how any rational person can defend the ICE agent here.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That's not a bad theory at all.
Go back and watch the video. None of the officers have their weapon out. Grey jacket retrieves the gun, you hear a distinct gun shot followed by a little hop skip and then they pull out their weapons.. They are reacting to a gun shot in very close proximity unaware that grey jacket has retrieved a firearm..
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
That’s like saying you are opposed to cancer, I hope you did lol great evidence
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:07 pm to GhostofJackson
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. There was reasonable belief that he was a threat.
That is certainly not clear.
It appears he was disarmed before he was shot. You can't reasonable be a threat to justify lethal force after being disarmed.
And even if he was armed, you'd have to show very strong evidence he presented that level of threat. It's just that being disarmed eliminates it completely.
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. Who do you think he showed up to use that weapon against if he had to.
That matters 0% in the analysis of justifying lethal force.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
Holy shitty analogy.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It appears he was disarmed before he was shot. You can't reasonable be a threat to justify lethal force after being disarmed.
There is nothing in the video that suggests they knew he was completely disarmed prior to shooting
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:09 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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Go back and watch the video. None of the officers have their weapon out. Grey jacket retrieves the gun, you hear a distinct gun shot followed by a little hop skip and then they pull out their weapons.. They are reacting to a gun shot in very close proximity unaware that grey jacket has retrieved a firearm..
Yeah when I posted stills from the video that was supposedly bad for the guy who was killed, they came off as odd (especially when timed with the shot sounds).
Your theory connects all the dots
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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played baseball, football, and basketball for 10+ years
On which video game system?
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:10 pm to G2160
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There is nothing in the video that suggests they knew he was completely disarmed prior to shooting
Sounds like we don’t have a right to carry firearms any more.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
Bro you are retarded. You can't even answer a simple question because you know logically it would show your ineptitude. If you are a court lawyer you probably lose a lot. Or maybe you are just a retarded paralegal.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
Your willingness to surrender at every moment and avoid confrontation suggests otherwise. You would be a great LARPer though
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:12 pm to jeff5891
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Sounds like we don’t have a right to carry firearms any more.
Not an argument anyone is even making.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:12 pm to G2160
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There is nothing in the video that suggests they knew he was completely disarmed prior to shooting
How could they perceive a legitimate/reasonable fear of imminent threat if he was disarmed?
The LEO making bad assumptions doesn't work. Again, he didn't have to be disarmed to remain a non-threat. IF he was, though, it is impossible for him to present a legitimate, imminent threat of death/SBI. How could the police articulate that without the gun being used?
DOJ policy page with some case law
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Law enforcement and correctional officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force only when necessary, that is, when the officer has a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or to another person.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:13 pm to G2160
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Not an argument anyone is even making.
Apparently you are a threat just for carrying.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:14 pm to GhostofJackson
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. You can't even answer a simple question because you know logically it would show your ineptitude
The question is irrelevant.
He could have posted he was going to kill cops and that still doesn't justify the use of deadly force in isolation.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:14 pm to jeff5891
Ignorant Leftists shouldn’t have a gun but since he tried to be a big man he learned the hard way, sucks for him
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'm just here to remind you that you've avoided my question because you aren't smart enough to answer it.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:14 pm to Rip Torner
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Your willingness to surrender at every moment and avoid confrontation suggests otherwise.
Says the guy arguing we should do this with cops or else they are justified in killing us
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