re: New libertarian talking point: “actually, only a minority of Iranians oppose the regime”

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Wait are you trying to pretend that prior to 1979 Iran was a thriving Islam enclave?

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Are you trying to redefine what "Islam" (I presume you meant "Muslim") means? Because Iran has been Muslim since the 7th century

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A Sunni enclave

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Iran became Shia in 1501

Wikipedia article to educate yourself

I'm a libertarian and follow several libertarian sites on social media.

The main theme seems to just be isolationism again, not going one way or the other. If anything, libertarians are acknowledging that the majority of people in Iran value their freedom more than progressives in America value theirs.

I think it is more incorrect than you are thinking. I think it will be even overwhelmingly wrong once the people don’t feel threatened from the current regime.

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The Shia dominace ended in 1925

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No it didn't.

You're trying to redefine what "Shia" means.

As I said

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Are you trying to redefine what "Islam" (I presume you meant "Muslim") means?

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Thank you for proving my point in the most hilariously ignorant way

Reza Shah Pahlavi was a Shia Muslim



You're conflating being Muslim (specifically Shia Muslim) with all sorts of other things unrelated to religion (like secular society)

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No it didn't.

You're trying to redefine what "Shia" means.

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Just stop. Quit using Wiki as your source

Is NPR a good enough source to crush your Shia feels? Because you havent a clue about the nation. Youre out of your element counselor

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In Shiite Islam, this has been known as Quietism. Shiite clerics by and large believed that politics was an imperfect practice, so it was better to look inward.

"They accepted the legitimacy of the rule of monarchs so long as they did not violate religious law, so long as they did not harm Shiism," says Vali Nasr, author of The Shia Revival, "and as long as they helped the preservation of the community. So it was not expected that government would be Islamic in a perfect sense. All that was necessary was for government to protect religion."

That arrangement began to crumble soon after World War I.

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In Persia, Reza Pahlavi, a military officer, seized power in a coup in 1925 and declared himself shah. Pahlavi changed the name of the state to Iran and set about creating a secular government, much to the dismay of some of the Shiite clergy.

And in the 1930s, much to the dismay of the Great Powers, Shah Reza Pahlavi flirted with Nazi Germany.

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Did you know that Iran is a translation of Aryan. As in Nazi Germany Aryans: the Nazis promoted this false notion that glorified the German people as members of the "Aryan race."

Your so-called dominant Shia culture left the nation, and went into exile

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In exile, Khomeini developed his concept of what an Islamic state would be: a Shiite Islamic state, under the control of the clergy.

From exile, Ayatollah Khomeini emerged as the revolution's leader, and in early 1979, after the shah fled the country, Khomeini returned.

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But most Sunni Muslims rejected the Iranian revolution as a model for their own societies. Saddam Hussein was most aggressive of all. In 1980, he ordered an invasion of Iran, to topple the Persians, as he dismissively called them, and to seize the Iranian oil fields.

This would further deepen the division between Sunnis and Shiites.

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