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New Bill going thru Tn House RE:LEO's,

Posted on 4/21/21 at 12:07 pm
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8089 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 12:07 pm
EMT's and Fire Dept.

Caught this on the radio this morning and the skinny is:

New Law being proposed that will have automatic sentencing if an individual kills any of the mentioned above while they're on duty.

Death Penalty
Life without parole
Life (I assume parole is an option).

Of course the perp will have to be found guilty before any of 3 options are applied.

I like this. A lot.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24694 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 12:09 pm to
So guilty until proven innocent?
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8089 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

the perp will have to be found guilty before any of 3 options are applied.
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 12:14 pm to
I can’t wait until even more LEOs continue to resign or retire.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139784 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

course the perp will have to be found guilty before any of 3 options are applied.


Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5702 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 12:16 pm to
Probably needs some more nuance. We executing people who cause auto accidents and a cop dies as a result?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139784 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 12:16 pm to
I don’t think that is the killing the bill is going to address.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16459 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

So guilty until proven innocent?


Where do you get that from the OP?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76504 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

So guilty until proven innocent?


Do you have a reading comprehension issue, dan?

This is a sentencing change, not a change to the elements of the crime.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6495 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

course the perp will have to be found guilty before any of 3 options are applied.







...you're shaking your head no to the requirement the accused be proven guilty in court before applying a death sentence or life in prison? I could tell you were an unhinged bootlicker but thats way worse than I thought.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64483 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 12:49 pm to
In Tennessee, the murder of an on-duty LEO, EMT, judge, attorney general, district attorney, etc is already capital murder, and the sentencing guidleines for capital murder are 1) death penalty; 2) life w/o parole; 3) life w/ parole after 25 years served. Not really sure what this bill proposal changes in the state code.

T.C.A. 39-13-204
quote:


(a) Upon a trial for first degree murder, should the jury find the defendant guilty of first degree murder, it shall not fix punishment as part of the verdict, but the jury shall fix the punishment in a separate sentencing hearing to determine whether the defendant shall be sentenced to death, to imprisonment for life without possibility of parole, or to imprisonment for life. The separate sentencing hearing shall be conducted as soon as practicable before the same jury that determined guilt, subject to the provisions of subsection (k) relating to certain retrials on punishment.

(2) The trial judge shall provide the jury three (3) separate verdict forms, as specified by subdivisions (f)(1), (f)(2), and (g)(2)(B). The jury shall be instructed that a defendant who receives a sentence of imprisonment for life shall not be eligible for parole consideration until the defendant has served at least twenty-five (25) full calendar years of the sentence. The jury shall also be instructed that a defendant who receives a sentence of imprisonment for life without possibility of parole shall never be eligible for release on parole.

(i) No death penalty or sentence of imprisonment for life without possibility of parole shall be imposed, except upon a unanimous finding that the state has proven beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of one (1) or more of the statutory aggravating circumstances, which are limited to the following:

(9) The murder was committed against any law enforcement officer, corrections official, corrections employee, probation and parole officer, emergency medical or rescue worker, emergency medical technician, paramedic or firefighter, who was engaged in the performance of official duties, and the defendant knew or reasonably should have known that the victim was a law enforcement officer, corrections official, corrections employee, probation and parole officer, emergency medical or rescue worker, emergency medical technician, paramedic or firefighter engaged in the performance of official duties;

(10) The murder was committed against any present or former judge, district attorney general or state attorney general, assistant district attorney general or assistant state attorney general, due to or because of the exercise of the victim's official duty or status and the defendant knew that the victim occupied such office;

(11) The murder was committed against a national, state, or local popularly elected official, due to or because of the official's lawful duties or status, and the defendant knew that the victim was such an official;


This post was edited on 4/21/21 at 1:00 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139784 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 12:57 pm to
Damn you are stupid.

Follow the thread. You can do it, corky.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2552 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

We don't get smarter as we age. We just run out of stupid things to do.
I wish you'd run out of stupid things to post.
Posted by tgrmeat
Member since Sep 2020
4322 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 1:04 pm to
I am sure it is much more nuanced that the OP heard in a radio blurb.
Posted by Helo
Orlando
Member since Nov 2004
4586 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

New Law being proposed that will have automatic sentencing if an individual kills any of the mentioned above while they're on duty.

Death Penalty
Life without parole
Life (I assume parole is an option).

Of course the perp will have to be found guilty before any of 3 options are applied.

I like this. A lot.
.

Does this also ban No-knock warrants which has caused the death of many LEOs?
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24694 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 7:18 am to
Yeah, I goofed...
This post was edited on 4/22/21 at 7:19 am
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12143 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 8:23 am to
This is one of those things the right supports now, and in a few years it will be another tool to persecute the right.

Think of all the things the right put in place to fight terrorism that are now being turned against us.
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