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re: Net Neutrality made simple....

Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:18 am to
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:18 am to
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He's referring to liberals and you counter with the opinion of the UN? A basic human right?



ya?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20399 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:36 am to
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by the United Nations.
These utilities are all paid for correct? these are not provided at zero cost to anyone.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:41 am to
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NN is too complicated for the op.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:46 am to
who said it would cost zero?

wtf am i reading
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41658 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:49 am to
If you want to really simplify it, it comes down to big government vs. small government mentality.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:49 am to
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I like the internet before NN (2015). There was a lot less censorship. Let’s MTIGA.


Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12874 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:51 am to
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If you want those shite shows running the internet you'll get it.


Define “running the internet”
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:51 am to
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What entity wielded such power that it enabled companies like Comcast, ATT and Verizon to have a monopolistic environment where they could possibly control so much?



Thank you.

This is a fricking GOVERNMENT PROBLEM, and a GOVERNMENT SOLUTION will only yields a BIGGER GOVERNMENT PROBLEM.


Guys, we have seen this shite over and over and over and over again. Government creates a skewed market. People look at the skewed market itself without bothering to look at why it is skewed. They then look to the creators of the problem and give them even more power so they can fix the problem… .who the hell wants to guess how that has turned out for us EVERY frickING TIME?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125398 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:54 am to
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I like the internet before NN (2015). There was a lot less censorship. Let’s MTIGA.


This post alone shows you have no real understanding of this topic.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:55 am to
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Ill intentions or not, if you ran a company how much gov't regulation would you want?




You misunderstand how regulations work. All of those companies want copious amounts of regulation.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12874 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:58 am to
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I like the internet before NN (2015). There was a lot less censorship. Let’s MTIGA.

Are you suggesting a cause and effect relationship? If so, how did net neutrality make censorship easier or more likely in 2015?
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 11:11 am to
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Guys, we have seen this shite over and over and over and over again. Government creates a skewed market. People look at the skewed market itself without bothering to look at why it is skewed. They then look to the creators of the problem and give them even more power so they can fix the problem… .who the hell wants to guess how that has turned out for us EVERY frickING TIME


I hope those airbag and seatbelt regulations on those government invested interstates don’t harm you too much on your way to Thanksgiving. Before eating that turkey and fixings you aren’t too bummed out that as long as prepared properly, your meal isn’t going to poison and kill your family. That if you feel you over ate, you can frustratingly throw back that Zantac you take for your heartburn with reasonable assurances that it isn’t accidentally tainted with rat poison. After your nap, maybe fire back up that computer and get on the government investment backed internet and tell us how government 100% always gets it wrong.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 11:26 am to
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I hope those airbag and seatbelt regulations


Did that solve a GOVERNMENT CREATED problem?

Oh wait, none of your examples are comparable to NN.

Try again.


Try more along the lines of Community Reinvestment Act and Dodd/Frank.
This post was edited on 11/23/17 at 11:29 am
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30868 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 11:43 am to
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Name one thing that liberals have wanted that was good for society.


Child labor laws
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71494 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 11:58 am to
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NN is too complicated for this board.


This is the most correct statement I've seen on this topic.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16169 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 11:59 am to
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You misunderstand how regulations work. All of those companies want copious amounts of regulation.


You're right, not all regulations are created equal. Regulation that benefits them sure.

NN does not do that in this case though.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71494 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 12:00 pm to
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airbag and seatbelt regulations


What a stupid analogy...

quote:

bonhoeffer45


Oh.

Never mind.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 12:37 pm to
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quote:
You misunderstand how regulations work. All of those companies want copious amounts of regulation.


You're right, not all regulations are created equal. Regulation that benefits them sure.

NN does not do that in this case though


Guys, this is a single regulation that the ISPs don't want. They ABSOLUTELY WANT government control though. You want to give government(and ISPs through money and power) control of the system so you get this one regulation.

It's like giving an arson a lighter and gasoline so he doesn't have access to a match.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 12:43 pm to
Bump for bonhoeffer
Posted by The Cow Goes Moo Moo
Bucktown
Member since Nov 2012
3505 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 12:56 pm to
What’s to stop an ISP from charging one price for access to all internet like we have now when all other ISPs are throttling service/only allowing access to certain websites?
Would consumers not be willing to possibly pay a little more for all access to the internet instead of using the other services who are limiting service?
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