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re: Negotiations have failed

Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:34 pm to
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:34 pm to
Not exactly the best negotiating team. Real estate investors and JD Vance with little experience at negotiations.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475187 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:36 pm to
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Because we have a President that doesn't like losing.

He only has 2.5 years left. IF we can do your goal he'll be LONG gone by that point

Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2251 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:38 pm to
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Navy has its own ground forces that are the best in the world. They are called Marines.


The boys in Little Creek might have something to say about that
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
22889 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:40 pm to
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The Department of the Navy has its own ground forces that are the best in the world. They are called Marines.

So to be clear you want to send in ground troops to achieve regime change in Iran?

Do you have a casualty level in mind as far as what’s acceptable to change which group of Shias run Iran?

Iraq was 30k and $3T and they still don’t do anything for us after 10 years of Americans bleeding in the sand so that Saddam can’t do mean things.

You good with that? Pentagon says it could be as many as 100k apparently.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15765 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:40 pm to
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He only has 2.5 years left. IF we can do your goal he'll be LONG gone by that point


Again you never served in the military so you really shouldn't even be speaking on our abilities. I assure you if we decided to annihilate Iran it would take less than 72 hours to do so. Our country has empathy towards civilians therefore we always hold back.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15765 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:42 pm to
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The boys in Little Creek might have something to say about that ?


Lol it would be appreciated if you didn't show my post to the Seals.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475187 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:43 pm to
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Again you never served in the military so you really shouldn't even be speaking on our abilities

I've lived through the war on terror already, where we failed both in Iraq and Afghanistan. Iran will be more difficult.

It took 20 years to lose the war for regime change in Afghanistan.

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I assure you if we decided to annihilate Iran it would take less than 72 hours to do so.



We couldn't kill 10 million people in that short of time without nuclear weapons, and if we use nuclear weapons, we will be turning the entire population against us for the foreseeable future. Along with basically the rest of the world.

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Our country has empathy towards civilians therefore we always hold back.

Those civilians are our future enemies. Have you learned nothing from the war on terror? This is why we can't win these wars, especially when conceived and simplistic ways like you were doing. You kill a civilian and you create multiple enemies for decades. They're friends, family, and progeny. And we cannot kill 90 million people
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:45 pm to
Thanks Hillary.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15765 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:45 pm to
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to be clear you want to send in ground troops to achieve regime change in Iran?


Never said that. If you took sfp post in context he was comparing the land terrain to Afghanistan and saying the Navy would be support. I was just stating the Navy would still be in the front had we needed to fight on land.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15765 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:48 pm to
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I've lived through the war on terror already, where we failed both in Iraq and Afghanistan. Iran will be more difficult.


Sitting in your recliner and watching cnn is not living through a war.

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And we cannot kill 90 million people


Ask Japan if they think America has the ability to annihilate Iran.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475187 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:53 pm to
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Ask Japan if they think America has the ability to annihilate Iran


There you go trying to compare conventional warfare to radical Islamic States. All that nuking and wrong would do is turn the people who may help us in regime change, hate the US even more.

You argue like a Marine. It makes sense now.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19495 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:57 pm to
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and pull out


Job your father certainly failed at.
Posted by Jasharts77
Knoxville
Member since Nov 2019
1093 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:58 pm to
Pack up all the toys. Tell Israel we are dont with them and this. Actually make America 1st.

Zion Don has to many jews making sure this dont work. Zionist will not stop this, and it will expand

The little Painter was right
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
6929 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:58 pm to
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They usually do when you're dealing with people who pathologically negotiate in bad faith.



Who is firing missiles at who, here? Amazing.
Posted by Jasharts77
Knoxville
Member since Nov 2019
1093 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:59 pm to
Are you willing to send 1 million ground troops. Because thats literally the only way you end this


You didnt learn anything in Afghanistan or Iraq i see
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15765 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 5:04 pm to
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There you go trying to compare conventional warfare to radical Islamic States. All that nuking and wrong would do is turn the people who may help us in regime change, hate the US even more.


Like I said you have never served our country in the military so again you need to stop speaking about its abilities. There many more weapons than the need to Nuke them but again you wouldn't know that.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15765 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 5:06 pm to
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Are you willing to send 1 million ground troops. Because thats literally the only way you end this



That is a naive way of thinking. We have the ability to annihilate Iran without using ground forces should we choose to.
Posted by Jasharts77
Knoxville
Member since Nov 2019
1093 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 5:07 pm to
So let me get this. Your advocating for another 20 year war ?

Military service should be mandatory, I got a feeling all you warHawks would be on a different team today if yall had some skin in the game

I did 2 to Afghanistan and 2 to Iraq.

If yall so keen on war why not join?
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
54943 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 5:08 pm to
War.

The kind of war in which the USA has not the resilience, nor the determination to wage.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15765 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 5:10 pm to
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So let me get this. Your advocating for another 20 year war ?


Never said that either. What I am stating is should all restrictions be removed from the Navy and Air Force we have the ability to end this quick. If our goal was just to wipe Iran off the map like they want to do us


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Military service should be mandatory, I got a feeling all you warHawks would be on a different team today if yall had some skin in the game

I did 2 to Afghanistan and 2 to Iraq.

If yall so keen on war why not join?

I did multiple years in the Navy. Should they be willing to take this 60yr old man back I would happily go.
This post was edited on 4/12/26 at 5:17 pm
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