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re: Need an explanation on homosexuality

Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:54 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:54 pm to
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Where I have a question is that I don't understand why calling someone who doesnt believe in homosexuality or is a homophobic, ignorant.

Please explain to me how that is ignorance. It is a perfectly acceptable personal preference on life that is justified by plenty of reasons given.



Obviously you "believe" in homosexuality since you recognize it. So it looks like you are homophobic and for some reason want acceptance? Maybe you should rewrite your OP, but leave out the "believe in" stuff and anything that isn't homophobic. Then you might understand.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:57 pm to
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I'm forced to choose between two alternatives here.

(1) You think this is a gotcha question, because you are unaware of the difference between rational-basis review and heightened scrutiny. Due to the knowledge gap, discussing this issue with you is more trouble than its worth.

(2) You know the difference, but think it shouldn't exist. Rather than saying so, you are playing Internet Socrates. Due to my preference for brevity and dislike of unearned condescension, discussing this issue with you is more trouble than its worth.
. . . and I thought you'd just geaux to the 16th Amendment

Knowledge gap?
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
11463 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:00 pm to
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All 50 States provide an equal ability for a single man and a single woman to be married regardless of race, color, or creed. Talk to me when a Alabama tries to stop granting birth certificates for Hindu weddings or something, then you'd have an argument.

Reminds me of the argument used by opponents of interracial marriage.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:02 pm to
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Reminds me of the argument used by opponents of interracial marriage.
There is no comparison OMMG.

HINT: Loving was ARRESTED!

It was an ugly damn time.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
11463 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:06 pm to
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There is no comparison OMMG.

HINT: Loving was ARRESTED!

It was an ugly damn time.

Yea I get this. All I'm saying is the logic behind the argument is similar.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
75823 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:08 pm to
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Does any kind of sex without intent to reproduce progress the human race?

Nope

I'm not saying it's wrong to have sex for pleasure or for a personal connection with someone you love. My only claim was that homosexuality doesn't benefit the human race in anyway. But people took it as me saying gay people aren't beneficial to the human race. Which is fricking retarded.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 6:10 pm
Posted by stormy
Member since Sep 2014
578 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:17 pm to
Well to understand this you need to understand genetics and then you need. to understand the revolving world of how we enter life and how back genetics go back, and with that understand, you can see where shite can go. wrong! Open your eyes and your heart!
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:22 pm to
Well a person who says homosexuality isn't a perversion is an idiot.

When you get before your maker on that great and terrible day, you will understand that those who taught kids that's perversion was natural were idiots.

A pervert means abnormal i.e. deviating from that which is normal or usual, typically in a way that is undesirable.


Definition from the dictionary = Perversion: Perversion is a type of human behavior that deviates from that which is understood t be orthodox or normal. Although the term perversion can refer to a variety of forms of deviation, it is most often used to describe sexual behaviors that are considered particularly abnormal or repulsive.

I tell it like it is, I don't pussy foot like you liberals trying to make everyone FEEL BETTER.

If you work with me and you are a lazy azz, I am going to tell you to pick it up and quit being a lazy azz.


Your codifying, will get people a one way ticket to hell, my telling them the truth might bring awareness to their sinful nature and enlighten their minds unto salvation.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
7053 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:24 pm to
Watch God be gay and what a laugh he is having!
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84543 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:24 pm to
You really are doing the Lord's work, my man
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13486 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:30 pm to
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Because homosexuality doesn't lead to procreation and there is rampant disease outbreaks within the homosexual community. It's like incest. There's a reason children end up retarded or have some kind of genetic abnormalities due to incest. It's not what nature wanted.
Nature does not 'want' anything. It has no consciousness, no intentions.

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I don't care what people do in their private lives as long as it doesn't impact mine. Marry who you want to marry, sleep with who you want to sleep with as long as it's not hurting someone. But to say that homosexuality is anything other than nature combatting overpopulation is just wrong IMO.
Well, homosexuality has nothing to do with 'nature combating overpopulation'. That is not how evolutionary biology works. I intend no offense, but you should read one of the many good popular science books about evolutionary biology before speaking so authoritatively about how it works.

There is no mechanism for gametes to know that their species are overpopulated and to somehow rearrange the genes in themselves to produce a homosexual organism.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 6:35 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135614 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:32 pm to
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Nature does not 'want' anything. It has no consciousness, no intentions.
Actually that is demonstrably false.
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Well, homosexuality has nothing to do with 'nature combating overpopulation'. That is not how evolutionary biology works. I intend no offense, but you should read one of the many good popular science books about evolutionary biology before speaking so authoritatively about how it works.
Agree
Posted by stormy
Member since Sep 2014
578 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:33 pm to
You asked for understanding , and I gave it to you , of course my two cents and yes God almighty is in charge, and my meeting with god will be magnificent
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:34 pm to
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Actually that is demonstrably false.
Then demonstrate it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:35 pm to
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Then demonstrate it.
Natural selection.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:37 pm to
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Reminds me of the argument used by opponents of interracial marriage.




Always about race with you. It is from my own personnel experience: the person that screams racism the most or all the time is the biggest racist of them all.



In before your ds gene comment.


This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 6:37 pm
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:39 pm to
Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding in and of itself is a "benefit". Absolutely incredibly work!

Da Vinci's work ..... incredible! AND in and of itself it is a "benefit".

Ellen Degeneres makes folks laugh; she's a benefit.

The curtains in my home are beautiful. The guy who hung them is a benefit.

My colleagues who are gay have saved lives of many people. I will damn well guarantee you, the people they saved and who are alive today, and their families, would attest to the "benefit" of gay folks.

==================================

I have loved Elton Johns music all my life. I can love any person, homosexual or not as my friend or as a person.

Me loving someone or admiring their work has absolutely nothing to do with their stance for a practice that God abhors.( hates)

If a person is a thief, should I hate him ? No, I should love him and tell him it is wrong to take others things, just as the Ten Commandments say not to do. Me telling him that is not hate, it is love.

Me telling someone that even though you are on Death Row, God loves you and I love you is the Christian way of life ( see the murderer Apostle Paul ).

Now if the thief argues with me that stealing is a just way of life, I will tell him his way of life is not only wrong, but him teaching others to steal is abhorrent and evil. Likewise if a murderer insist that murder is not evil but a great way to get rid of "evil" people, then I will to my last breath come against that persons ideals and teachings as perverted and evil.

If I was a sinner without Christ I would never, ever advocate my sinful life as pure and just, and anyone who calls evil good and good evil I will come against, continually.

That doesn't mean I am mean, or hateful, that just means I am not going to allow anyone to call evil good and good evil without coming against them, no matter who they are, period.

I despise Elton John the man, he is a weak, perverted person.

Anyone who claims God made them this way when God did not make them that way is abominable.






This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 6:47 pm
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13486 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:41 pm to
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Natural selection.
Natural selection is an unconscious process, not a goal. It is a means, not an end. And the means has no end.

What you just said is like if I told you that a round ball has consciousness because it rolls down a hill. I can prove it to you, because gravity.

The round ball comes to rest when it gets to the bottom of the hill, but that was not its intention. It had no intention.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 6:42 pm
Posted by stormy
Member since Sep 2014
578 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:51 pm to
Do you people salute your American flag? I don't say perversion is right, I say you need to look at medical reasons! And have more backing, since you don't believe in mother nature, part of God almughty! Foot note your way behind Native Americans, been there and resovled that!!
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
11463 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:53 pm to
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Always about race with you. It is from my own personnel experience: the person that screams racism the most or all the time is the biggest racist of them all.

Hmm, many people mentioned interracial marriage in this thread before I, but you latch on to my post. You're :ommgobsessed:
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In before your ds gene comment.

Just keep me posted on your search
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