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re: NBC news reporting Biden to have meeting with family tomorrow about future of campaign

Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:22 pm to
Posted by berrycajun
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
7145 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:22 pm to
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/06/uh-oh-another-bad-news-democrats-biden-cannot/

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According to Kass’s post, Jill Biden is insistent about Joe Biden running for re-election, causing tension within his own campaign. Kamala Harris is reportedly “furious” that she is not being considered as a potential replacement candidate. “What I am hearing regarding Joe Biden. Ron Klain and Barack Obama are having a sit down with the President today. Jill Biden is insistent that Joe runs. Kamala is furious that she is not being considered as a replacement (Whitmer and Newsom are). Interestingly my neighbor in East Hampton is hosting the Bidens tomorrow. It will be an important tell if the fundraiser is cancelled,” Doug Cass wrote on X.


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“We are monitoring the calls from across the country for President Biden to step aside, either now or before the election, and have concluded that the process for substitution and withdrawal is very complicated. We will remain vigilant that appropriate election integrity procedures are followed,” said Mike Howell, Executive Director of The Heritage Foundation’s Oversight Project.


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Important caveats include the timeline and triggering events. For example, some states allow withdrawal before the 74th day before an election,’ and failure to adhere to these timelines can result in the candidate’s name remaining on the ballot! (which provides its own corollary of post-election litigation). Likewise, the rationale for withdrawal (death, medical, or other) can be outcome determinative. Some states, like South Carolina, do not allow withdrawal for political reasons.’ There is also the possibility that states will be complicit in an improper withdrawal or substitution. The general scenario plays out after an election where the candidate dies, and the electors are left to choose who they are voting for. This circumstance is only applicable at the close of the election year there is greater uncertainty if the withdrawal happens before the election. Should the Democrats choose to withdraw in June or July, after many states’ withdrawal timelines expire, what happens to those expired ballots? The answer is it depends.


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Much will come down to when Biden withdraws, what procedures he does or does not follow, and the operating state law timelines and triggering events. However, at least 31 states defer to state or national party rules and committees for nominating in the event of withdrawal. These states circumvent the substitution process highlighted above. There may be some avenues for challenges to these laws on improper delegation grounds, however, these may be marginally beneficial. There is also the issue of applicability. In some of these states there are no statutes that deal with presidential candidate withdrawal or vacancy in nominations, or the laws only operate at the primary election. Even more, there is little caselaw determining when these statutes apply.






Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19717 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:22 pm to
I promise they will. I don’t know who believes they won’t? Lol
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35857 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:22 pm to
Joe Biden still won’t be on any general election ballot until he is formally nominated. Just think about it.

Imagine a scenario where a major party doesn’t have a presumptive nominee going into the convention because no one has a majority of primary delegates.

I get that everyone wants it to be that the Democratic nominee (if Biden steps aside prior to being nominated) won’t get on the ballot in WI, etc. but that isn’t going to be the case.
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
4043 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:24 pm to
It’s simple: either invoke the 25th Amendment or step down.

There’s about a 64% chance he’ll resign, compared to 25% of him becoming infamous for all the wrong reasons. One way or another, it’s likely one of these will happen.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
70875 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:24 pm to
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I guarantee whoever replaces Biden will be on the ballot in all 50 states. States will call emergency sessions to pass a law to allow it if necessary.


The Dems will have to break Democracy... "to save Democracy."
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19717 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:25 pm to
How much you wanna bet a Democrat will be on the ballot if Joe steps aside? You remember voting laws have to be changed by the state legislatures during Covid? Lol, that never happened. Those changes went through with no court challenging them.
Posted by berrycajun
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
7145 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:25 pm to
I’m totally MAGA

I hope he stays in the ballot because he’s going to lose

Or he will step down and the new candidate won’t have their name on the ballot at LEAST in Nevada. The law is clear there. Only in death.
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 10:26 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35857 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:26 pm to
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new candidate won’t have their name on the ballot at LEAST in Nevada. The law is clear there. Only in death.

Joe Biden is not on the ballot in Nevada at this moment.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19717 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:26 pm to
You wanna bet? A Democrat will be on the ballot. Republicans will cooperate to make sure it happens
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 10:27 pm
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
4043 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:27 pm to
By the way, if neither of those happens, that might be the scariest scenario of all.

It would mean he's completely controlled and wants to stay until the bitter end because the jig's up.
Posted by berrycajun
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
7145 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:30 pm to
I think at LEAST Nevada and South Carolina will have Joe Biden on the ticket and no other democrat because the law is black and white in those states. Only in death and in in South Carolina you can’t change the nominee after the second Friday in June. It’s CLEAR CUT.

Now, will the brakes stop working in Trump’s car? Maybe.

Will they cheat like mad in every state. Most likely

But the public is watching this closely and i don’t think they will get away with changing the ballot in Nevada and South Carolina when the law is clear cut and simple
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 10:31 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35857 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:31 pm to
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Only in death and in in South Carolina you can’t change the nominee after the second Friday in June. It’s CLEAR CUT.

Joe Biden is not the nominee.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34928 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:41 pm to
quote:

The Dems will have to break Democracy... "to save Democracy."


Is it breaking democracy if elected lawmakers pass a law and have it signed by the governor to change a law?

A judge single handedly deciding that the state can ignore election laws on the books is breaking democracy.

The Legislature passing a law is not.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19717 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:47 pm to
You are delusional. A Democrat will be on that ticket in every state. Those voting laws will be changed if necessary. Whatever needs to be done will be done.
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 10:49 pm
Posted by Tasseo
Member since Feb 2024
3252 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:13 pm to
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Democrats break rules routinely like nothing. Remember those voting laws that were in place prior to Covid, lol

I wonder who scotus will accept has "standing" to prevent them from doing what they will. I know it won't be Trump.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87762 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:43 pm to
quote:

According to Kass’s post, Jill Biden is insistent about Joe Biden running for re-election, causing tension within his own campaign. Kamala Harris is reportedly “furious” that she is not being considered as a potential replacement candidate. “What I am hearing regarding Joe Biden. Ron Klain and Barack Obama are having a sit down with the President today. Jill Biden is insistent that Joe runs. Kamala is furious that she is not being considered as a replacement (Whitmer and Newsom are). Interestingly my neighbor in East Hampton is hosting the Bidens tomorrow. It will be an important tell if the fundraiser is cancelled,” Doug Cass wrote on X.


Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35857 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:46 pm to
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wonder who scotus will accept has "standing" to prevent them from doing what they will. I know it won't be Trump.

There really isn’t a ton of legal hurdles to keep a private organization from doing what it wants to do.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6640 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:52 pm to
He will definitely Not resign. He will simply pull out of the race like LBJ.

If he resigns, Kamala is president and she will run.
That would cause a bloodbath at the convention.

They don't want that
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14936 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:17 am to
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painfully aware


Is he really? Because I’m pretty sure that nursing home resident in chief is barely aware when he shits his diaper.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 1:06 am to
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“Biden was described by 1 person familiar w/his mood as humiliated, devoid of confidence & painfully aware that the physical images of him…eyes staring into the distance, mouth agape—will live beyond his presidency, along w/a performance that at times was meandering, incoherent”


So he has a lack of awareness but is aware of his lack of awareness?

I hope no one believes any of these stories.
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