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Nat Emergency won’t create precedent for Dems
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:17 pm
The national emergency law has specific statues about being used for border and drugs. It doesn’t have any statues about banning guns or installing railroads or solar panels.
Conservatives pushing this dumb shite are lying,
Conservatives pushing this dumb shite are lying,
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:18 pm to Lsujacket66
It also ignore the fact that Democrats would do this shite regardless of what Trump does.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:18 pm to Lsujacket66
Obama has 10 “national emergencies” that still in place today. People with this chicken little shite are misinformed
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:19 pm to Lsujacket66
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Conservatives pushing this dumb shite are whiny little babies
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:20 pm to Lsujacket66
Sounds like we're going from "They do it, so it's ok if we do it" to "they would do it if they had a chance, so it's ok if we do it."
Seems like a terrible way to measure right and wrong, or at least long-term political expediency.
Seems like a terrible way to measure right and wrong, or at least long-term political expediency.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:22 pm to Lsujacket66
I think what worries conservatives (this one included), is that leftists (as recently demonstrated by the CowFart Deal) believe that the solution to global warming is socialism. Which makes no fricking sense I know but somehow they believe it we are socialist cows stop farting.
They also think global warming is a matter of national security. Which makes also as much sense.
Even tho these dumbasses don’t even know if they have a penis or a vagina. There are millions of them. And their moronic leaders currently control the House of Representatives and one major political party.
It is dangerous allowing the risk these people could declare a crisis.
They also think global warming is a matter of national security. Which makes also as much sense.
Even tho these dumbasses don’t even know if they have a penis or a vagina. There are millions of them. And their moronic leaders currently control the House of Representatives and one major political party.
It is dangerous allowing the risk these people could declare a crisis.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:22 pm to xiv
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This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:22 pm to PEPE
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Democrats would do this shite regardless of what Trump does.
This
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:23 pm to Lsujacket66
He can use U.S. Code without declaring an emergency.
This post was edited on 2/14/19 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:24 pm to arcalades
The national emergency is a distraction from the main issue: being, Congress is yet again forcing another piece of legislation longer than War and Peace that covers a wide umbrella of topics and trillions of national spending, all of which are being presented with less than 24 hours to review. How many times is this going to happen? It's a joke, our government has been a joke for decades now, it's nothing more than an automated production line of interchangeable political robots who just go through the motions regardless of where the results may lead.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:24 pm to Wednesday
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They also think global warming is a matter of national security.
Many people think that the environmental effects of the massive amount of pollution being spewed has reached the point of being an emergency threat to humankind's very survival on this planet.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:25 pm to Wednesday
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It is dangerous allowing the risk these people could declare a crisis.
If want to try to do it, they are going to try and do it. Nothing is going to stop them. They aren't going to say "I'd like to declare a national emergency over global warming, but because Trump didn't declare the border an emergency, it wouldn't be right if we it."
They already think the threat of global warming dwarfs the threat at the border.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:26 pm to TBoy
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Many people think that the environmental effects of the massive amount of pollution being spewed has reached the point of being an emergency threat to humankind's very survival on this planet.
Many people are crazy and stupid.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:29 pm to Lsujacket66
quote:Regardless. Watch how Trump moves this. POTUS has said he will use executive action up to and including a National Emergency. But there is a lot of funding movement available through Executive Action shy of declaring a National Emergency. What POTUS just did is FORCE McConnell to sign off on not opposing POTUS using National Emergency as a basis for funding. He'll seek Barr's advice if he goes that direction. But getting the Senate to tacitly agree not to obstruct National Emergency implementation was a big deal.
Nat Emergency won’t create precedent for Dems
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:30 pm to Lsujacket66
Link us to the specific statute, please
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:32 pm to Lsujacket66
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As of January 2019, 58 national emergencies had been declared since the Act was enacted in 1976, with 31 of them being renewed annually
Why are people acting like this is a new thing that will set a “precedent”?
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:32 pm to Smeg
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They already think the threat of global warming dwarfs the threat at the border.
Right. So if Trump declares a national emergency and devoted military resources towards solving it, and then takes it to the USSCT who then agrees, when the next Barack Obama is elected and decrees that we have to ride a bicycle everywhere, the military will be spending eleventeen bajillion dollars building a train to Greenland and researching where to put AOC’s unicorn ranch.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:34 pm to Lsujacket66
Well that and there are 31 already active
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:34 pm to Smeg
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If want to try to do it, they are going to try and do it. Nothing is going to stop them. They aren't going to say "I'd like to declare a national emergency over global warming, but because Trump didn't declare the border an emergency, it wouldn't be right if we it."
They already think the threat of global warming dwarfs the threat at the border.
Trump opens the door to this and gives them justification. It's risky to try it without it but once that door is open it's a free-for-all.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:34 pm to boosiebadazz
All the statute (50 USC §§ 1601, et seq.) says is the President must periodically transmit to Congress “a report on the total expenditures incurred by the United States Government ... which are directly attributable to the exercise of powers and authorities conferred by such declaration.” The statute applies to “declared national emergency statutes” (i.e., those statutes in other areas of the US Code) as well other situations. There’s an opinion from DOJ citing a case that otherwise it would violate the basic principle that “[a] statute should be construed so that effect is given to all its provisions, so that no part will be inoperative or superfluous, void or insignificant.”
It’s important to point out that the above ties into the ability to reprogram funds from the CoE as provided in the Army Civil Works law, 33 USC § 2293: In the event of a declaration by the President of a national emergency in accordance with the National Emergencies Act [50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.] that requires or may require use of the Armed Forces, the Secretary, without regard to any other provision of law, may (1) terminate or defer the construction, operation, maintenance, or repair of any Department of the Army civil works project that he deems not essential to the national defense, and (2) apply the resources of the Department of the Army’s civil works program, including funds, personnel, and equipment, to construct or assist in the construction, operation, maintenance, and repair of authorized civil works, military construction, and civil defense projects that are essential to the national defense.
It’s important to point out that the above ties into the ability to reprogram funds from the CoE as provided in the Army Civil Works law, 33 USC § 2293: In the event of a declaration by the President of a national emergency in accordance with the National Emergencies Act [50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.] that requires or may require use of the Armed Forces, the Secretary, without regard to any other provision of law, may (1) terminate or defer the construction, operation, maintenance, or repair of any Department of the Army civil works project that he deems not essential to the national defense, and (2) apply the resources of the Department of the Army’s civil works program, including funds, personnel, and equipment, to construct or assist in the construction, operation, maintenance, and repair of authorized civil works, military construction, and civil defense projects that are essential to the national defense.
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