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NAFTA collapse could push Mexico over the edge

Posted on 11/19/17 at 3:50 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40124 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 3:50 pm
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There are two foreign men whose faces you see constantly on the streets of Mexico's capital these days – on magazine covers, on posters and billboards, caricatured on T-shirts and, in the case of one of them, hung as pinatas.

That one is Donald Trump. He has achieved a folkloric notoriety in Mexico unprecedented among U.S. presidents, after coming to power by demonizing the entire Mexican people as rapists and traffickers and by threatening to savage Mexico's fragile economy by shutting down NAFTA and building a border wall. To be associated with Mr. Trump, as Mexico's centre-left President Enrique Pena Nieto made the mistake of doing in 2016 (when he invited the then-candidate to visit Mexico), is to be scarred.

The other is Ernesto (Che) Guevara. This fall has felt like a mass festival around the 50th anniversary of the death of the Argentine revolutionary who transformed Cuba's revolution into six decades of crippling authoritarianism. He's a popular figure throughout Latin America, but Mexicans have really pulled out all the stops, releasing several Che-themed motion pictures and TV specials and encouraging his anniversary to be turned into a nationwide political statement. Among urban Mexicans, Che-style Marxist authoritarianism is the forbidden fruit, the tempting alternative that Mexico, unlike every other country in the region, has never tried.

The more Trumpismo bares its teeth, the more Gueverismo attracts Mexican voters away from conventional politics or economics. And as NAFTA negotiations stagger and careen amid Mr. Trump's threats, the risk looms that Mexican voters will be pushed far off the edge.

Mexico's Che-flavoured alternative is the larger-than-life figure of Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, the far-left populist who currently leads the polls for the July, 2018, national election. His many followers (mainly among urban and younger Mexicans) see him as a Mexican Che Guevara – an image he has embraced, going so far as to name one of his sons, Ernesto, after the revolutionary.
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Mexico's youth are suffering from a bad case of stupidity (aka socialism) and I fear that will get worse when Mexico's gold mine (aka NAFTA) is closed. Mexico will elect a socialist and in approximately 10 years will look like Venezuela. Just another reason to build the wall, build it tall, and build it fast.
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Sody Cracker
Distemper Ward
Member since May 2016
3409 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 3:58 pm to
To hell with Mexico.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40124 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:00 pm to
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To hell with Mexico.


Just as soon as we get the wall and the moat with crocodiles in it.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98702 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:01 pm to
Yep. Wall needs to get put up, and soon.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:01 pm to
Well they better hurry up and pay for the wall then and maybe we will be a little nicer
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32535 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:01 pm to
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Mexico will elect a socialist and in approximately 10 years will look like Venezuela. Just another reason to build the wall, build it tall, and build it fast.

Amen
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:02 pm to
I really don't give a shite if Mexico goes to hell in the hand basket , but just wait for the millions of , now refugees , pour up against the border. It's going to be chaos on the border states .
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51798 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:02 pm to
This won't get them off the hook.


They still paying for the fricking wall.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
12375 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:03 pm to
So it's our fault that a country we've let take full advantage of us wants to implement communism?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40124 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:07 pm to
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So it's our fault that a country we've let take full advantage of us wants to implement communism?


No, but it is a reason to build the wall to contain the flood of refugees that will be flooding out border in approximately 10 years.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:10 pm to
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one of them, hung as pinatas.

That one is Donald Trump.
That right there tells me Trump is doing something right.....
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:15 pm to

Instead of north american union run by usa majority, we would soon see a revolution.
History will piss on trump voters if Mexico's economy is pushed off the cliff by the psychopathic cic.
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 9:13 pm
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19689 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:24 pm to
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after coming to power by demonizing the entire Mexican people as rapists and traffickers
how stupid do you have to be to believe this is what Trump did during the election?
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 4:25 pm
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34896 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:31 pm to
Agree, Wee. Ever since I watched that Cartel beheading of those women...that did it for me. People get the government that they deserve, and the things which they tolerate forms the society in which they will exist.

Build the Wall. ASAP. It's going to look like the Syrian/North African invasion of Europe in five years when the Mexican economy tanks.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33921 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:32 pm to
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To hell with Mexico.



But can we give their weather girls a free pass?
Posted by The Mad Fratter
Madison, MS
Member since Jul 2013
1284 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:32 pm to
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how stupid do you have to be to believe this is what Trump did during the election?

See the post directly above yours
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:34 pm to
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History will piss on trump voters
If so, we'll piss back, Otto.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:37 pm to
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No, but it is a reason to build the wall to contain the flood of refugees that will be flooding out border in approximately 10 years.


Playing defense is a losing strategy. Is there any reason that we couldn't just take Mexico and drive them into Central and South America? With all that extra land we could reserve some tracts and let them learn to assimilate. Is there any reason not to do this? In the end it would be for the greater good and the compassionate thing to do...sombreros are no longer that hot a thing in the fashion world..I read that a virus took out the "Mexican Jumping Bean" market a few years back, and we already have Taco Johns and burrito joins all over the place, and their economy sucks because of that.

Why would this not be a good idea to help them out??
Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
4332 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:42 pm to
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how stupid do you have to be to believe this is what Trump did during the election?


Although I agree with your point, apparently not that stupid considering how many of the leftist hacks that repeat it on a daily basis. They love to titally lie about what he actually said.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40124 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:51 pm to
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Instead of north american union


Why the f**k do we want a union with Mexico?

quote:

we get a revolution.


No we get a wall, Mexico gets a revolution and a bill.

quote:

History will piss on trump voters if Mexico's economy is pushed off the cliff by the psychopatic cic.


History is written by the victors, and the silent majority will always win.
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