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re: “My son, 19, was killed in Iraq serving in the military unit Tim Walz abandoned”
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:13 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:13 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Look at this fricking idiot
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Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:13 pm to Wire Road 2
Yeah, I had a co-worker in the Guard, and they know well in advance when they were deploying.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:13 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Ya know how I know Kamala nailed her pick?
I am ecstatic that she picked Walz.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:14 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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I'm a veteran
So are you okay with him telling people that he was in Iraq and carried one of those dangerous combat weapons?? I know as a Combat Veteran, I sure as hell am not ok with his lies and bullshite!
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:16 pm to Murph4HOF
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You must have been like an E-5 at most and might not even be an Army veteran.
I served the same 4 years as Cpl. Hamel...I mean "JD".
I was USAF...wasn't dumb enough for the Army.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:17 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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I was USAF
Ope you just outed yourself cubsfan5150…
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:18 pm to Wire Road 2
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The official orders are a formal piece that turn on specific legal and funding issues. This is after many months of planning. Soldiers know tentative deployment dates because it filters down through official & informal channels.
Soldiers are given an exact date no less than 90 days out usually. Unit leadership is given roughly a year notice because they need all the time to put together the training plan, get personnel assignments correct, get rolling stock and equipment ready and shipped ahead of the unit BOG, schedule SRP events, get soldiers through legal, etc. For smaller units they'll get a series of orders to train, do equipment fielding, personnel readiness, etc before being pushed forward. A full battalion is going to do most of their work home station before moving.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:19 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Again they may not have received official orders and the unlimited Iraqi freedom credit card but if he was in the command, they know in advance. I was active duty at a reserve unit. We knew what our deployment schedule was. Had to because guys rotated, retired and needed new people to fill those billets. The soldier died June of 2006. It was a 22 month deployment ( read in another article). He put his papers in 4 months before finding out they were deploying? I don’t buy it!
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:19 pm to Clames
The Five Bunion Leader will take this and run..... to where?
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:22 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
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He put his papers in 4 months before finding out they were deploying?
He'd been in 24 years, dude. As a vet yourself, you know military retirement is 20 years; he was already doing extra time. Even if he DID know they were leaving within the next year, was he supposed to stay in for a total of 26 years just for the privilege of going to fricking Iraq?
You and I both know that no one in their right mind would stay in if put in that same position.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:23 pm to FlexDawg
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She described how when her son's body was returned from Iraq the town of Willmar, Minnesota fell silent as his casket was driven through the streets in a silver hearse.
Members of the Minnesota National Guard, past and present, lined up to salute as his remains were taken to the town's civic center.
One thousand mourners attended his funeral, where friends remembered how he could raise a smile with his one-line jokes.
But Mrs Miller never heard from Walz, or even his office.
Timmy Walz did not even show up at Kyle's funeral in 2006.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:24 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Walz put in his retirement paperwork in April of 2005. Orders were issued for his unit in July of 2005.
Orders being issued have nothing to do with when the decision is made, they only need to be issued before the action is expected to he performed.
A combat deployment, he would have known for a year about when the deployment would happen in a non sf/ranger/ 82 unit. Not only this, but he retired after the training for deployment was complete. So, he stayed with the unit and essentially copped out at the end. Very surprised they didn't stop loss him and force him to go unless he really was just that connected or not that big of a loss.
Either way, your statement is very inaccurate. Orders bring cut just a month or two after retirement means he knew damn well every detail of that deployment. Orders getting cut means it's almost go time.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:24 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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He'd been in 24 years, dude. As a vet yourself, you know military retirement is 20 years; he was already doing extra time.
As a veteran you’re a dumbass missing the conditional E9 and high 3 part of a retirement ….
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:25 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Are you okay with him lying about going?
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:25 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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You don't put in your retirement papers and leave the next day. It doesn't work like that in the military.
He never actually signed his retirement papers.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:26 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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was he supposed to stay in for a total of 26 years just for the privilege of going to fricking Iraq?
Only if he wanted to put combat vet on his resume.
He still put it on his resume.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:26 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Grasping at straws?
Let’s say you cry so much that his abandoning his guys is put to the side.
There’s a long list of other negative stuff from this radical left piece of shite.
Tampon Tim is a joke.
Which one of those applies to you?
Let’s say you cry so much that his abandoning his guys is put to the side.
There’s a long list of other negative stuff from this radical left piece of shite.
Tampon Tim is a joke.
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Imagine being a democrat. It means you believed that Joe was fine and that makes you an idiot. Or… You don’t care that the President has dementia which makes you worse than an idiot. The Buckl Brigade is pathetic. ...
Which one of those applies to you?
This post was edited on 8/8/24 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:26 pm to Sofaking2
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He never actually signed his retirement papers.
Yep and his DD214/215 was then updated in an audit because he submitted as an E9 and 215 corrected it to E8.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:28 pm to mmmmmbeeer
quote:So your appeal to authority on this subject (4 yrs in the USAF) is even weak.
I was USAF...wasn't dumb enough for the Army.
Aside from this guy's own statements where he knew his unit had been alerted, a RC unit knows well in advance where they are on the ARFORGEN cycle. Longer drills, more CPXs, more time in the field, etc...
The FORSCOM horse blanket goes out a few years. That horse blanket covers everything, so in 2005 it would have shown what units were to deploy to Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait, Gitmo, and some other smaller quantity deployments for the next few years.
BN, BDE, or DIV key leaders (primary staff, CDR, XO, CSM) know if and where their unit is on the FORSCOM horse blanket and where their unit is in the ARFORGEN cycle.
It probably worked out well for the unit that he pussied out. The MN guard guys I worked with were very squared away so I have no doubt he was replaced with someone more competent.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:30 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Mmmcreampie you are embarrassing yourself again.
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