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re: Mueller subpoenaed Donald Trump's bank records from Deutsche Bank is fake news.

Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:22 pm to
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Didn't Deutsche Bank release a statement saying they would comply?


They basically said they can neither confirm or deny.

Trump probably never had a bank account with Deutsche Bank. He probably floated the idea of Deutsche Bank because some people think Deutsche sounds Russian.

fricking Trump and his sense of humor.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:23 pm to
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Right Trump’s lawyer = noise Anonymous Hilldog shill lawyer = billowing smoke
Fine.

Back on task. I'm not terribly familiar with criminal procedure in matters like this, but would Trump or his team even necessarily be privy to that kind of information during the course of an investigation? If so, at what point? When the request is received by the institution? When the records are provided? Ever?

And I think it's perfectly plausible that the "source" jumped the gun after hearing of an intention to subpoena financial records, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of clarity on that front.

For my information, would/will anyone really be surprised if and when that kind of information is subpoenaed as a part of this probe if it hasn't already?
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14078 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:23 pm to
I just read an article implying Deustch Bank was practically begging for a subpeona. Quotes from anonymous sources saying how helpful it was to receive the subpeona because they can finally send all of the financial records to muellers team.

Since anonymous sources are the only ones we are allowed to hold as truth, it must be true that deustch bank was begging for a subpeona.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52364 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:25 pm to
Right.

Because financial institutions ALWAYS work so hard to piss off their billionaire customers.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:25 pm to
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Fine.

Back on task. I'm not terribly familiar with criminal procedure in matters like this, but would Trump or his team even necessarily be privy to that kind of information during the course of an investigation? If so, at what point? When the request is received by the institution? When the records are provided? Ever?

And I think it's perfectly plausible that the "source" jumped the gun after hearing of an intention to subpoena financial records, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of clarity on that front.

For my information, would/will anyone really be surprised if and when that kind of information is subpoenaed as a part of this probe if it hasn't already?


holy shite
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:27 pm to
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I just read an article implying Deustch Bank was practically begging for a subpeona.
wow. a bank begging for a subpoena...no such bank exists.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:28 pm to
Here’s the thing I keep saying about this stuff, there is shelf life on how long questions like this go unanswered. The investigation is ultimately going to confirm or disprove this as the investigation continues.

If Reuters and Bloomberg are wrong, and the conservativetreehouse is correct, time will answer the question. Just like it did with Seth Rich.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14090 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:32 pm to
Did he subpoena records from the bank
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:33 pm to
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Did he subpoena records from the bank




Fox and The Hill are now reporting, no. No subpoena.
Posted by TheMidasTouch
Member since Oct 2017
440 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:40 pm to
I was expecting something a bit more than conservative treehouse
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14078 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:42 pm to
Theres several sources posted and linked throughout thread.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:42 pm to
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If Reuters and Bloomberg are wrong
when has a big outlet like that ever lied to me...oh wait.


quote:

he investigation is ultimately going to confirm or disprove
you ever seen a movie with a conclusion that doesn't leave you satisfied or resolve any of the major plot lines? that's what you're going to get. only instead of wasting 2-3 hours, you're going to waste 2 or 3 years, and then trump is going to cap off the disappointment with a 2020 win because deranged democrats and the media were so intensely focused on this stupid shite

and i'm not complaining



Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:47 pm to
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I was expecting something a bit more than conservative treehouse




There are other sources (Fox and The Hill) in this thread.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67567 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:48 pm to
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What the hell is happening?



rats jumping ship?
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:49 pm to
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We know it hasn't happened up until this point
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the media got ahead of their skis a little bit
This is not a very characteristic rebuttal from this admin

Interestinger and Interestinger, this yarn
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:49 pm to
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He probably floated the idea of Deutsche Bank because some people think Deutsche sounds Russian


True that.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43957 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:51 pm to
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Sarah Sanders and Jay Sekelow denied that any subpoena had been issued and obviously reached out to the WH allies in the press. Deutsche Bank hasn't said anything other than that they cooperate in all legal investigations. Mueller's team, obviously, hasn't said anything publicly.

So it's the Trump team denying it and no one else coming out to confirm it really.


So we have an initial report that has no hard evidence to back it up just "a source close to the investigation." One side is publicly denying the substance of the story and the other side not commenting is not commenting and the bank is not commenting. That is not the exact definition of "fake news," but it is pretty damn close.
Posted by kcon70
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2016
2705 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:52 pm to
I got a few down votes for saying this was fake news in another thread lol.

Go figure. They get hurt.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 4:15 pm to
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So we have an initial report that has no hard evidence to back it up just "a source close to the investigation." One side is publicly denying the substance of the story and the other side not commenting is not commenting and the bank is not commenting. That is not the exact definition of "fake news," but it is pretty damn close.


AFP, Reuters, and the German paper that initially broke the story are now (as of just 20 min ago) saying their source "confirms" that the records were subpoenaed. Mueller's team specifically declined to comment (as expected), DB just generically said they cooperate in investigations of this nature.

So someone's boldly lying or boldly selling their flier as hard fact.
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