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Mueller, FBI, face crisis in public confidence

Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:27 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:27 pm
thehill.com
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Sixty-three percent of polled voters believe that the FBI has been resisting providing information to Congress on the Clinton and Trump investigations. This is a remarkable finding for an agency whose new head said a few days ago that the agency was in fine shape. No, it isn’t.

Fifty-four percent say special counsel Robert Mueller has conflicts of interest that prevent him from doing an unbiased job, also according to this month’s Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll. So, given this finding, the silence from the special counsel on the subject has become downright deafening.

These are significant findings about an operation that was supposed to bring more objectivity and less partisanship to the Trump-Russia investigation. Clearly these numbers indicate that there is a crisis in public confidence in both the FBI and Mueller. What makes these findings important is that, with Trump’s approval rating at 41 percent, these results include large numbers of voters who don’t like Trump yet who now agree that these investigations have veered off course.

After this poll was conducted, we learned that rogue agent Peter Strzok and his paramour, Lisa Page, both high-ranking members of the Mueller task force, discussed during the campaign how, in case Trump won, that they were developing, along with deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe, what Strzok called an “insurance policy.” I can’t even imagine how badly these new facts will poll next month.

Mueller’s probe doesn't end with a bang, but with a whimper | TheHill
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 1:30 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:30 pm to
Nothing will come of this shite show. They keep adding layer upon layer, adding new investigators for every tangential issue that pops up.

These investigations and congressional hearings are nothing more than throwing taxpayer money into a pile and hitting it with a flamethrower
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:33 pm to
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They keep adding layer upon layer, adding new investigators for every tangential issue that pops up.



I fully expect Mueller to begin interviewing the women who claim to have been sexually harassed by Trump. Starting with the one that was naked underneath all her clothes. And the dems here an on the news to openly celebrate.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 1:35 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:42 pm to
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I fully expect Mueller to begin interviewing the women who claim to have been sexually harassed by Trump. Starting with the one that was naked underneath all her clothes. And the dems here an on the news to openly celebrate.

The problem is that this investigation has turned into one catch all probe to make political hay out of every single issue they find. They purposely leak information to fuel the news cycle and to start another investigation on said issue. This nonsense is nothing more than political revenge and we're all funding it. No one will go to jail, no one will be punished, and no one will be held accountable. All we'll see is more congressional hearings where politicians grandstand for 5 mins before asking the witness a question whereby the witness will give a non-answer and then they'll move on to the next grandstander.

This is all a dog and pony show to make the public think that people in DC are held to account. It's complete bullshite.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30008 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:47 pm to
serious question here but how is this costing us millions of dollars when all these people were already government employees in one form or the other were they not?

do they get hired as a new job and separate career altogether outside the government at 20x the money normal people get?

it just seems none of these people didnt already work full time for the government so why is it costing us anything other then time?
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:49 pm to
It was clear to trumpkins from the start that the investigation was political.

It's clear to the majority of Americans now. Anyone who doesn't agree that Mueller and co are on a political witch hunt that's destroying the credibility of the FBI are fringe conspiracists.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22087 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:51 pm to
If "Honest Bob" were truly a man of integrity as he claims, he'd disband this shite show immediately. It's quite clear that this entire investigation is fully tainted and compromised.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21874 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:51 pm to
Say it isn't so!

Honest Bob is the greatest American EVER!

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98785 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:57 pm to
Can't imagine why...
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:59 pm to
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The problem is that this investigation has turned into one catch all probe to make political hay out of every single issue they find. They purposely leak information to fuel the news cycle and to start another investigation on said issue. This nonsense is nothing more than political revenge and we're all funding it. No one will go to jail, no one will be punished, and no one will be held accountable. All we'll see is more congressional hearings where politicians grandstand for 5 mins before asking the witness a question whereby the witness will give a non-answer and then they'll move on to the next grandstander. This is all a dog and pony show to make the public think that people in DC are held to account. It's complete bull shite.


Thank you. Some people just get it.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:59 pm to


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Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22087 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:02 pm to
Haha - those are almost as good as Garrison cartoons.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:05 pm to
Opinions are like assholes.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:07 pm to
Politico

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Russia probe cost DOJ $6.7 million in months after Mueller appointment

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Of the total, only $3.2 million was spent directly by Mueller on salaries, travel, rent and equipment through September.

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The other $3.5 million was spent on DOJ operations and would have been spent on its own pre-existing Russia investigations if Mueller hadn't been tapped to take over in mid-May. DOJ said it wasn’t legally required to figure out this total, and past special counsels didn’t tabulate it.


Nothing crazy for the Gov, but nothing is free. They are contracting a bunch of labor too I imagine

This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 2:10 pm
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:09 pm to
63% ? How fricking stupid are the other 37%? NM
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30008 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:11 pm to
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Nothing crazy for the Gov, but nothing is free. They are contracting a bunch of labor too I imagine


ok, got it, so only half of what they are "reporting" as the cost is actually new money they wouldnt already be spending on salaries normally

that makes more sense now for the amount of money they are said to be spending
Posted by Presidio
Member since Nov 2017
3060 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 9:50 pm to
If I ever needed a reason to demand Mueller be fired, Eric Holder provided it in his tweet yesterday:

quote:

Speaking on behalf of the vast majority of the American people, Republicans in Congress be forewarned:any attempt to remove Bob Mueller will not be tolerated.These are BS attacks on him/his staff that are blatantly political-designed to hide the real wrongdoing. Country not party
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 9:52 pm
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9800 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:22 pm to
Mueller will give up his power if he concludes the investigation. Then he will be investigated.

Unfortunately, I expect this to go on a long time.
Posted by Armchair_QB
Member since Aug 2013
1512 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:27 pm to
Eric Holder should be shot for treason. frick that piece of shite.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:25 am to
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serious question here but how is this costing us millions of dollars when all these people were already government employees


Office space, equipement, support staff, overtime, travel, temporary relocation........

NOTHING the government does is cheap.

Trust me.
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