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re: Mueller: Barr letter did not capture the "context" of Trump probe
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:03 pm to 337Tiger19
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:03 pm to 337Tiger19
quote:This is a lot less serious than you make it out to be. He isn't saying Barr was lying/wrong, he is saying that Barr didn't, for example, include enough in the 4 pg summary about the legal rationale behind not exonerating, but not finding obstruction, either.
And all I’m saying is that the report states clearly that barrs summary "did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance of this office's work and conclusions"
He was not saying the letter was inaccurate, he was worried that by only including the top line findings- no conspiracy, unable to make decision on obstruction- Barr was letting the media (on both sides) specualte and fill in the blanks.
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:05 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
He was not saying the letter was inaccurate, he was worried that by only including the top line findings- no conspiracy, unable to make decision on obstruction- Barr was letting the media (on both sides) specualte and fill in the blanks
Isn’t leaving out important information besides the “top-line” findings a pretty solid definition for “inaccuracy” in this sense?
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:05 pm to bmy
quote:Barr's summary did not state no obstruction. It stated, correctly, that Mueller was unable to make a decision on it.
Instead we got "no collusion, no obstruction" and then found out that Mueller documented instances where Trump obstructed
Barr didn't include context because it was his job to release to congress the topline findings of the report. He had every intention of releasing the full report shortly afterwards, and he did.
Do you guys understand this is a moot point? We have the report and we have barr's letter.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:05 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
He was not saying the letter was inaccurate, he was worried that by only including the top line findings- no conspiracy, unable to make decision on obstruction- Barr was letting the media (on both sides) specualte and fill in the blanks.
We're all adults and understand how one can be intentionally misleading without lying
'Mueller was unable to determine that Trump obstructed justice'
'Mueller was unable to determine that Trump obstructed justice because DOJ policy does not permit the indictment of a sitting president'
Both sentences are factual.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:08 pm to 337Tiger19
quote:If Barr wanted to leave out information, why he did, without actually having to, release the full report?
Isn’t leaving out important information besides the “top-line” findings a pretty solid definition for “inaccuracy” in this sense?
The DOJ is not obligated to make the report available to the public. But Barr did.
I don't get what you think his thought process was. If he was trying to cover up for trump, why would he release the full report?
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:11 pm to bmy
So what you are telling me is that Barr was trying to buy trump like 3 weeks of extra protection by releasing a topline summary and then willingly (without having to) release a report that was damning in certain parts 3 weeks later?
Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds at face value?
Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds at face value?
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:14 pm to CheniereTiger108
This was created because the dems lost because Barr told them to GFT when they wanted to try him in their mini court.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:15 pm to bmy
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Bmy
This is why you don’t release investigation notes. This crap is just internal arguments between investigators which is common. In the end there were NO Charges. So it does not matter what You Think.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
So what you are telling me is that Barr was trying to buy trump like 3 weeks of extra protection by releasing a topline summary and then willingly (without having to) release a report that was damning in certain parts 3 weeks later?
Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds at face value?
Well not releasing the report would have been a virtual death sentence for the administration
Personally I think it was done as an attempt to control the narrative. Similar to Sanders lying and making up "facts" that were not based in reality.
In a word.. propaganda.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:17 pm to bmy
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Well not releasing the report would have been a virtual death sentence for the administration
They never said they wouldn't cuck.
Oh. BTW. Member when you said Fukushima wouldn't be an issue because the tranny marrying queer said so mmmhmmm?
Not so smart...
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:17 pm to bmy
quote:
We're all adults
You're a clown who can't let go of the fact that you fell for an absurd conspiracy theory.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
So what you are telling me is that Barr was trying to buy trump like 3 weeks of extra protection by releasing a topline summary and then willingly (without having to) release a report that was damning in certain parts 3 weeks later?
After the summary most of Trumps supporters, and even Trump, claimed victory and that he was exonerated. I doubt that the full mueller report would’ve done anything to change any of their minds, and since trump only needs his solid base to stay above water, I’m sure those are the only people he cared about convincing.
Not saying this is exactly what happened, but it is feasible. In fact, this first page of this thread where everyone automatically assumed Mueller is the one being misleading makes it even more so.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:20 pm to bmy
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In a word.. propaganda.
You are fricking special man.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:22 pm to thebigmuffaletta
At this point what difference does it make? I think the only take away here is that mueller thought the media was running misleading stories based on their interpretation of the Barr letter. The media was being misleading not Barr. This should surprise no one.
He released the report almost in its entirety and there is absolutely no smoking gun. Mueller musings about indicting a sitting president also have no bearing on the fact that he did not make a recommendation. Had he had enough evidence (Trump abusing executive privilege for example) he would have recommended charges on obstruction and let the judiciary settle whether or not they could indict the President (most likely put it under seal until his term expires).
He released the report almost in its entirety and there is absolutely no smoking gun. Mueller musings about indicting a sitting president also have no bearing on the fact that he did not make a recommendation. Had he had enough evidence (Trump abusing executive privilege for example) he would have recommended charges on obstruction and let the judiciary settle whether or not they could indict the President (most likely put it under seal until his term expires).
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:22 pm to KingOrange
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This is why you don’t release investigation notes. This crap is just internal arguments between investigators which is common. In the end there were NO Charges. So it does not matter what You Think.
If you get clocked going 59 in a 50 you might not get a ticket or even pulled over but you were still breaking the law.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:23 pm to CptBengal
quote:
They never said they wouldn't cuck.
Oh. BTW. Member when you said Fukushima wouldn't be an issue because the tranny marrying queer said so mmmhmmm?
Not so smart...
Remember when you did your dramatic "This is my last post. You know what this means." thing? Everyone is wrong once in a while.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:23 pm to bmy
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If you get clocked going 59 in a 50 you might not get a ticket or even pulled over but you were still breaking the law.
really? really? REALLY? So was the Obama admin ever pulled over or did their car always stay in the ditch?This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:25 pm to cajunangelle
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really? really? REALLY? So was the Obama admin ever pulled over or did their car always stay in the ditch?
We'll find out pretty soon eh?
Difference between us is that I like to see justice regardless of political affiliationPosted on 4/30/19 at 10:27 pm to bmy
quote:
bmy
You care about the environment.
When you're told to care. By a guy. Married to a tranny. On TV.
I actually work to save it. Every day. I don't care what the TV says. I keep working.
You need a chick with a dick to dance on Ellen.
Seriously. Stop. Think for 10 seconds. You only care if a tranny in Ellen tells you to care and stop when she stops talking...
J
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