re: MTG conducts Twitter poll for "National Divorce", the results are in.

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These Marxists will likely never understand what the forefathers truly fought, bled and died for. I can assure them, it wasn’t for the right for corrupt politicians and corporatists to sell Americans out to foreign interests. They also didn’t die so mentally ill Marxist lunatics could dress up in drag to read leftist indoctrination curriculum to our children.


You traitors will never appreciate what those forefathers fought, bled, and died for because you're so willing to give up on it. Pussies.

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You’re Marxist indoctrination is 100% complete. Your delusion and confusion is likely irreversible.

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In your "new" America, will there only be "Conservative" parties? What will your new constitution look like and why won't it, also, allow liberalism?

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True patriots won't have to change a damn thing in the new America. It will be exactly what we have now. It is liberals who would have to create a new government because they hate the constitution, hate the idea of controlling our boarders (granted that's only because they want to import votes, won't have to do that in their new UnAmerica), and they hate freedom/liberty. All we want is for America to actually follow the constitution and put America first. Liberals are the ones trying to make the place completely different and they call it being progressive. It's been regressive if anything, this far.

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That's kind of how everyone you're arguing with feels too, just in a different way. This is not the same America that I was born in or served for.

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But it's really not the same. Where we are now is within the paradigm of our constitutional republic, which allows free speech and association. It's the same America, just with different problems. THESE problems fricking PALE in comparison to some of the issues our predecessors dealt with. But social media has turned every issue into a life/death struggle between good/evil. The whole country seems manipulated to hate each other, but that's a reflection of our will as people. It is NOT a reflection of the validity of our country.

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The Marxists/democrats want to make this the USSA and they control every single important aspect of daily life to make it happen. They control all branches of fed government, the military, big tech, the mainstream media, education, entertainment, and corporations.

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Okay, so how do you prevent that from happening in your new USA? I say the things we see now are a natural evolution of our process, applied to different issues. The process is fine. People have changed. As with the natural sciences, it's the job of the GOP to adapt. If you want to control more of the important aspects of daily life, adapt. The populace doesn't think like it used to. The GOP needs to bring more people into the tent and it can't do that without coming to terms with the paradigm shift.

No. The USA you grew up in doesn't exist and will never come back. Artificially creating a new country that will somehow be reflective of your idealized notions won't actually prevent the same thing from occurring - unless you specifically outlaw certain thoughts, certain speech, etc. It just seems sad that so many people would willingly give up on the greatest feat of mankind when all they really need to do is have an honest assessment about their beliefs, the state of the world, and ways to sell a conservative mindset for the modern world.

For years, I've been preaching the limited government approach to civil asset forfeiture, the war on drugs, and police accountability. IMO, had the GOP taken a proactive approach on any/all 3 of those issues, they'd be sitting in a much prettier spot. I can't help but think that if they had legalized marijuana, Trump would have won reelection. The GOP could have cemented itself as the party that ended "the new Jim Crow," while Obama did nothing. Think of the political capital. "For decades, Dems have said they want to end prohibition. They had full control under Obama and were too afraid to act. But I, Donald Trump, am more worried about the rights of Americans than I am my legacy." Obama the black savior was too scared of tarnishing HIS legacy to do anything about it. Not the colorblind GOP. Not the small government GOP. Not the free market GOP. Our new approach empowers citizens to make their own choices. It creates a new economy. Etc, etc.

As much as possible, I find that there are a heap of redeeming qualities that come from having a conservative approach that removes itself from the free market. I think the GOP could change its future by doing more to apply those principles, universally, especially when it would have a tangible impact on a huge voting block that largely ignores them. But they don't really seem all that intent on adapting, even when those adaptations would be consistent with a conservative argument.

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Never seen you criticizing Dems here

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I get this criticism on the Hog board. It seems a waste of my time to talk about things that I agree with people on. I usually only speak up when something is bothering me, or when I disagree with someone.

But ONCE AGAIN, do you guys ONLY post on TD? I post on twitter, or I USED to until I got banned again. This time permanently. Do you think I got banned for being mean to conservatives?

But by FAR, my posting activity happens on reddit. I just like to debate. It's a fun way to waste time. There's plenty of people to debate on reddit and, believe it or not, most of them just address my points without calling me names. They can conceptualize a human being having a multivariate approach to life, unlike some people.

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So, in the divorce settlement, the Liberals get both Coasts, Big Tech, MSM/Hollywood and totalitarianism.

The Conservatives get Middle America, freedom and all the food.

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We’re definitely keeping the southeast and gulf coasts.

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So you’re fine with no restrictions on businesses denying service to anyone for any reason? We’ll exclude businesses that are classified as essential businesses. Proceed sir.


Yep. Is your mind blown? The CO bakers shouldn't have been forced to do anything. A business owner should be allowed to operate their business how they see fit. If someone doesn't like it, they can shop/work elsewhere.

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I don't know your political leanings so I'm attempting to establish some baseline understanding. I think you're living in denial as are many other Americans. Unfortunately there are millions of Americans who are still unable to see a few years down the road towards America's future. The current regime is telegraphing with great clarity what their vision of the future is and it includes steadily eroding personal freedoms coupled with an ever increasing dependency on a massively bloated federal government. This constitutional republic, that was delivered to the American people through much sacrifice was built on principles and tenets not shared by the current American Marxist party, formally the Democrat Party which I was a firm supporter of until 1989/90.

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Based on what evidence? What words have I ever said that support such a notion? It must be nice being so black/white about everything.

Oh, you took the vaccine? You're a liberal. Oh, you think the GOP should adapt? You're a liberal. Think we shouldn't be traitors to the USA by openly championing its dissolution? You're a liberal.

Meanwhile, you fricking retards think I should be more offended by NFL players taking a knee than you wanting the USA to end.

You have zero intellectual capacity. None of you can think for yourselves. You're caricatures of men whose brains were wasted.

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I like how you claim to be the real patriot here wanting to fight to keep this country together. Then you follow it up in every post being divisive as possible calling everyone in here an idiot, redneck, loser having only mush for brains. A real patriot for America is one who tries to garner support of fellow Americans tired of the same authoritarian marxist bullshite. You would try to bring us all together and convince people that a divorce isn't the right answer. We should vote out all the scum in office from the bottom local levels on up. We should fight to rid the country of any UnAmerican people in any political position, in media, and in every aspect of life as we know it. You are the divisive one in here who is coincidentally actually pushing for the divorce whether it be out of ignorance or whatever. Before you tell people they lack critical thinking, you should take a step back and critically think about everything you said. All of your words are pushing for everything you claim to be against. You don't become the boss, leader, or be a part of of something by showing up and calling everyone who disagrees with you an idiot. That's not how you convince people of what you think needs to be done. The way you handle yourself is as UnAmerican and Unpatriotic as the Marxist liberal trash.